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Spotify Is Social Media Now? (newsroom.spotify.com)
submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by sunstoned@lemmus.org to c/music@lemmy.world
 

I've done it. I've finally reached my "old man yells at cloud" moment. Why, why, WHY is Spotify adding features straight out of the social media playbook?

Anybody have recommendations for alternatives?

In my head there's:

~~YouTube music~~ (google, gross)

~~Apple music~~ (no way they're not on a similar trajectory)

~~Bandcamp~~ (limited, but at least bands see some money from it)

~~SoundCloud~~ (weird reputation, though haven't come back around to it in a good 10 years)

Tidal maybe? Would love to hear some recommendations.

Edit: I neglected to mention why I don't like the messaging feature. I've never used it, yet with a few of my friends there are already dozens of song exchanges in the thread. It's clear that spotify has been using user-specific links for a while now to track who sends what to who. That's a pretty clear anti-feature for me, and is enough to make me jump ship.

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[–] cabbage@piefed.social 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm using Qobuz for music streaming. It's alright.

Last time I checked they pay artists more than the competition, they curate playlists and editorial content rather than pushing AI left and right, and my experience is generally good.

Minus points for lacking API and native Linux client. On desktop Linux the web app works well.

[–] fdnomad@programming.dev 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I like streaming music, I dont need to own it, but I have been struggling to find a good music streaming service.

I used Spotify for years but the amount of garbage they keep adding made me cancel my subscription. The last straw was when "smart shuffle" kept automatically turning itself back on.

First I switched to YouTube Music but the user experience is honestly trash and I moved on pretty quickly. The separation between video and music service was ridiculously inconsistent.

I used Tidal for a few months and I appreciated the simple UI. However, the recommendations are insanely bad. Not once have I found a new, good track on the daily mix to add to my library, it was driving me crazy.

I started using Qobuz only a few weeks ago. The track radio is honestly pretty bad so far. I start the radio on a lofi track and start hearing video game ambience noises 5 tracks later. Literally bird sounds with whitenoise from an OST album. I havent tried the daily/weekly queue a lot yet, but I hope its decent because I dont know what to try next.

I wish Spotify hadn't entshittified, it had the best recommendations/radios by far but its just not usable for me anymore.

[–] froufox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Funny that i switched from YT music to Spotify for a while and found its recommendations much worse. The app was cool and flashy though, especially on tv

[–] fdnomad@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I think what helped my Spotify recommendations a lot was the option to "exclude from taste profile". I might listen to lofi for 12 h straight but I dont want any lofi recommendations at all, so that feature was nice.

Also I never pressed "like" on anything, I only ever disliked things in order to keep recommendations more open. It felt like Spotify understood the assignment while e.g. Tidal kept blasting me with a genre that I accidentally listened to one track of and kept "disliking" every single artists.

[–] marighost@piefed.social 5 points 2 days ago

I'm content with tidal for now. I mainly listen to music on my desktop, and I like that it's just music. No podcasts or things I don't want to see.

[–] jagermo@feddit.org 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Deezer is my streamer of choice, nearly identical with artists, OK discovery. Premium includes high def and you can currently stream to multiple devices, like, say, play on sonos for the Kids and listen to yourself without one device stopping

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 1 points 2 days ago

You can also rip music files from deezer into .flac

Spotify customers created a bigger evil

[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just don't use the feature. Not everything is screech worthy.

[–] sunstoned@lemmus.org 2 points 2 days ago

That's a fair response to the original post. Made an edit to expound.

My problem with it is that I've never used Spotify messages, yet there's already a few threads on my account with dozens of "messages". My best guess is that the thread tracks unique links that I've sent to friends outside of the app and they've opened while logged in with their accounts. I don't like that.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Winamp died because the company that acquired it tried to turn it into an everything app.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Winamp died for our sins :(

[–] WilhelmStroker@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Misread that as winamp died for our skins.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago

This as well.

[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Winamp died because pirating music mostly died. That's the only reason.

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Winamp died because the jump from 2 to 3 (if memory serves) was a profound hit to system resources... Followed by the dev team apparently fucking off on anything that wasn't optimization (see above for likely reason.)

Add in a dose of music platforms figuring out streaming and you can put the final nail in that coffin.

[–] waddle_dee@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So, I'm a bit of an enigma, so take my recommendation with a grain of salt. I use Tidal. It does the best, out of all my criteria.

    1. Friendly privacy policy. It's very straight forward, and from what my lawyer friend said, it's pretty solid.
    1. Hi def streaming. It's a must for me, as I have some nice cans and speakers I wanna listen through.
    1. Payout to artists. Although they don't pay as much as Qobuz, they pay a substantial amount relatively, and the aforementioned points make up for the rest.
    1. Ease of use. The app is really great and it's easy to use and I find that after curating my music for awhile, I get solid recommendations and the radio stations always hit well. Although, I do wish there was more variety in the stations. Sometimes, it plays the same tracks across stations.

All in all, I'm very happy with Tidal and I don't think I'm switching anytime soon.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago (6 children)
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[–] BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

spotify started with more social media feel

[–] gruvn@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

I had Tidal, but sending music to my home Sonos devices was too much of a pain in my butt so I reverted back to Spotify.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone -3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I'm so confused, if you don't want to use this feature, just don't use it?

Also for my money messaging has never been 'social media' otherwise we'd have to call MSN Messenger social media and that ain't right

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

That is a sound approach until they audiobook the shit out of it and suddenly there’s 90% of screen space showing it on the interface. So far it’s okay but there’s a growing trust issue between Spotify and myself as a user given their track record to make things shittier.

[–] beetus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Idk that I'll use this feature but it makes a lot of sense. I end up sharing links to Spotify tracks across multiple different friend groups multiple times a week. They share with me too.

It's obvious that Spotify would like to encourage people to stay "within the walls" of Spotify more when sharing this stuff. Some people will love this feature I bet. Idk why anyone would be upset by an optional chat though.

[–] sunstoned@lemmus.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's that Spotify has obviously been tracking the songs I've exchanged with friends for a while now. I have never used the messaging feature, yet every album I've sent to friends is already in the messages thread. They've clearly been using unique links to track who sends music to who -- covertly, even outside of the app.

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