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[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 82 points 6 days ago (2 children)

100% There's no hate like christian love. Fucking cult lunatics.

[–] s@piefed.world 43 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Hey now! Other religions can foment boundless bigotry too

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Very true! Let’s not for about the religious war going on, whose deity fucks 8 year olds.

Or the cult that plays pedo shuffle with the clergy.

All religions are groomers and pedos.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 points 6 days ago

Don't you mean organized religions?

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Just providing theological clarification for educational purposes here, not necessarily refuting your point.

Muhammad is not seen as a deity in Islam, he is seen as the final messenger of God.

Many took issue with the Trinitarism of Christianity (which may have came into existance due to a compromise with Roman polytheistic paganism in the 4th century).

Islam was in part a refutation to the divinity of Jesus. Muhammad's desire was to unite the Arabian peninsula and bring the "descendants of Abraham" back to true monotheism.

He succeeded in uniting the peninsula, but the Jewish and Christian people did not adopt his message. As a result we have three Abrahamic today with Islam being the youngest.

Christian and Islamic empires then spent centuries at each other's throats.

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And he’s the one that fucked the 8 year old eh?

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I mean this earnestly, which religious deity fucks 8 year olds?

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Mohammed.

Got a child wife aged 6 or 8 depending on the sources.

Just another shining pillar of religious child grooming and the typical pedo behaviour that they like to worship.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

excuse me my religion mostly centers around picking lavender and eating seafood

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Is yours recognized by the government and are you tax exempt for it?

Also, seafood has been shown to have some of the most microplastics of all the food we consume. Might want to cut back a bit for your own health.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

we haven't formed a corporation or applied for 501 status since we don't collect any money, but we exist

also, i have macroplastics i'm not so worried about the micros

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Then you’re not a religion yet. Just a small cult.

Microplastics are what’s breaking through the blood-brain barrier, so you might want to reconsider that stance.

[–] s@piefed.world -3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Ehhhh… I feel like that last sentence might be revealing your own bigotry. Just because they’re bad doesn’t mean they’re all that bad or bad in that particular way.

[–] j4k3@piefed.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Dogma is bad. It is blind to observable phenomenon and fails to yield to those that are demonstrably smarter. Dogma is subsentient latent animalistic primitivism that elevates ignorance and complacency to parity with a well established and supported reality.

Belief in magic is toxic stupidity that holds back all of humanity. Any denialism of those that rigorously observe and document their findings, while inviting other equally qualified and credentialed experts to review and critique their work, is that bad. the fact that many of these fools inherit vast sums of money is the root cause of all the issues in the western world. A lack of meritocracy is a terminal cancer of which we are in late stage failure due to the penal colony inbred reject Puritans the Europeans purged 300 years ago, and the festering putrid froth simmering in their shadow.

[–] s@piefed.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

At first I thought you were agreeing with me, and then I saw you reference my “that bad” in an apparent rebuttal. I was taking issue with only the last sentence of BroBot’s comment, which assumes much more and much worse than just dogma is present every religion.

[–] j4k3@piefed.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I probably abstract on a more broad layer than I manage to communicate. Those things mentioned like grooming and pedophilia are certainly not universal to all members but they are enabled by the collective dogma.

The dogma and institutions create an outsourced imitation of morality and ethics. However, they only possess the mechanisms of shame and guilt to alter behavior. These systems cannot create positive change or growth. They actually incentivise simply not getting caught.

So while everyone is not actively grooming or a pedo, the overall system is fundamentally flawed and enables groomers and pedos in a way that can be construed as universally harmful under the auspice of dogma.

In addition, the culture of dichotomous logic prevents open discussion and actionable help for those that may find children arousing. It is a major failure when the taboo is in such great conflict with the Epstein list where obviously most of elite society has engaged in the behavior.

My issue is that religion is outsourcing of morality and ethics. That is not real morality or ethics at all. It is harmful tribalism. Yeah, I pin dogma to the issue of groomers and pedos because dogma indicts the entire tribalistic structure for the behavior at the margins.

[–] s@piefed.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I agree it enables that and creates an environment for it to thrive, but I’m not into Minority Report-ing people for things they haven’t done yet

[–] j4k3@piefed.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm totally liberal friend. I am stupid about a great many things too. I call out the issues I see. I escaped the religion of my birth. I know the fallacy well. Everyone has a right to be wrong in a real democracy. They have no right to cause harm to others. The Hippocratic aphorism, "first, do no harm" is the most important principal. So just live and let live. So long as the person is not causing you bad health or violence, they have every right to live in peace.

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How many times do we need to have the priests be revealed as the groomers and pedos before we learn?

How many times has it not been trans or drag queens.

Oh! Every time over the decades it turns out to be the churches.

Churches are organized pedo rings in disguise, using faith as an excuse to control and manipulate the uneducated masses.

An individuals choice to believe whatever you want in the privacy of your own home is their own but the moment you join an organization ran by pedos pushing your agenda into politics and onto others, you can go fuck yourself and your cult.

[–] s@piefed.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

In what ways does your argument apply to the religions of Hinduism, Buddhism, or Jainism, for example?

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Same supernatural fake thinking that will leave you open to manipulation and not seeing the reality we live in.

If you have to sacrifice and live under the rules of a nonexistent deity for the sake of an afterlife that doesn’t exist then you are part of a death cult. Simple as that.

[–] s@piefed.world -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yes, but I asked how your argument applies to them. Show evidence to support your generalization of people, or be deemed a bigot.

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And I’ll repeat:

Same supernatural fake thinking that will leave you open to manipulation and not seeing the reality we live in.

The only bigotry I see is that of religious nutjobs pushing nothing more than “elaborate fantasies” of how they wished the world would magically work. All to control the uneducated masses.

I’m not here to debate with some religious apologist. Get blocked and thoughts and prayers to you. 😘

[–] s@piefed.world -4 points 6 days ago

Since I’m blocked, we all agree this user is off their nut, right?

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Most religions are about control with hate pretending to be love, but is only kinda love for your cult. Tribalism is our downfall

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Absolutely 100%

Love with stipulations is not love, it’s manipulation.

[–] wavebeam@lemmy.world 66 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This photo is fucking hot. not because it's gay or even kissing. but because of the blatant fucking protest of hate with public display of love. nothing hotter than confidently living your best life despite the presence of complete twats.

[–] wavebeam@lemmy.world 38 points 6 days ago

I should clarify: It's also okay for it to be hot because it's gay kissing.

[–] jcs@lemmy.world 49 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"She did it. That crazy son of a bitch she did it"

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Hell doesn’t exist. And while I am an atheist, I would also point out that it’s not a scriptural concept at all. It was injected by paganism after the pseudo-Judaism that was Christianity had spent generations being absorbed into and mixed with Hellenist cultures, which already believed in an underworld.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Hey! STOP IT! You can tell Christians about Christian history. Are you insane!

It's the same as telling them they should read the Bible! Like any of them ever would!

It wasn't until the early 1500s when William Tyndale translated the Bible into English and Gutenberg could mass produce it was it even available to read by the general populace!

Incidentally William Tyndale was executed for his efforts. But we don't talk about that.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Also Dante and his weird self insert fiction.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

He did write that as a direct critique of the Catholic church, particularly its custom of accepting simony or "indulgence payments" in exchange for forgiveness of sins. He goes as far as to present the pope in the eighth circle of hell. So credit where credit is due.

It was this profound corruption within Catholicism which created a schism within the church and led to Protestantism.

Oh Dante was definitely doing what we would consider political commentary nowadays. The problem is that at some point people took his weird but respectable work of political, theological, and philosophical commentary a bit too literal. Pretty sure before Dante hell was seen as a void or as a permanent and irrevocable separation from God, though there were outlyers due to pagan influence for example I remember coming across a letter where a Norse monk was getting annoyed with the fact that peasants had synchronized Helheim and hell as concepts.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 30 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Being stuck with people like THAT forever would be burning in hell.

[–] PropaGandalf@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Sartre knew

[–] caveman8000@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

We're already in hell. Might as well have fun while we're here

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 days ago

I wonder how many of those bigots actually hold up those signs in order to see hot lesbians kiss.

Surely there has been at least one.

[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 6 days ago

Good thing hell ain't real but love is

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Umm, yes. If Hell is for gay people, there'll be a lot of homosexuals sinning in there, honey. Sign me up!

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Jesus (who suffered several hours once) if you don't do as I say I'll roast you alive for eternity.

Also, I am love.

[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The best part is you know those guys are going to think about how hot that fucking kiss was, and then go home to nut Christianly as soon as possible. Hopefully on/in another adult, as not to nut too Christianly.

[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

Sign guy. Yes. And I will see you there asshole.

[–] inbeesee@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

They protest so they can see hot people making out all day

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today -2 points 6 days ago

I would have pulled out a tit for everyone else's entertainment. C'mon! Just one!