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[–] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 58 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Sounds great, let's stop funding Israel's universal healthcare and fund our own

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 50 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Since when do we provide healthcare to the rest of the world's population? We don't even provide it to our own.

[–] Thunderbird4@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This is probably in reference to USAID and other global humanitarian efforts formerly provided by the US that were eliminated by doge earlier this year, directly killing thousands of people, destroying decades of good will, and handing all soft power in the developing world directly to China.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Hundreds of thousands. Estimates are, to date, 300k people from disease and malnutrition, most of them kids in the Global South.

But it's fine for a lot of people in the US, because those people were the wrong color.

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

Ok that makes sense to me. Wording made it seem like something else.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

To be fair, the US is propping up the entire Argentine government, not specifically the health care system.

Yes I know this isn't better. No I don't think we should do it. It's just the phrasing paints a slightly different picture. That's all.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

the Argentinian president is a crypto bro, so he gets a pass

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Israel has free healthcare because they don't pay for their military. Guess who does.

[–] ook@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I hate to say it, but indirectly he is kind of right, but also not.

Pharma companies make a ton of profit in the US thanks to the outrageous prices they can charge, which however is absolutely by choice of the US government, so the government calling it out is ridiculous in the first place, but I digress.

So pharma companies make ton of profit in US but charge lower prices almost everywhere else. Those prices are not cheaper than they should be, they are just realistic. But we all know what will happen if the US now insists prices need to go lower in their market.

This will lead to less profits of those companies, in a sector where everyone ia so fixated on eternal growth and infinite profit increases over time, i.e. capitalism. So what can they do to prevent their lines in graphs going down? Jacking up prices everywhere else just enough to balance it out again.

And it will look like that this means everyone had lower prices because of the US while all it actually is, is pharma companies clutching to keep their profits stable.

[–] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not really. Pharma doesn’t lower prices elsewhere because the US market is basically an all-you-can-earn bonanza. Prices elsewhere are lower because there prices are heavily regulated. They can’t just charge what they want there, nor can they just jack up prices whenever they feel like it

The US healthcare system is just laughable.

[–] ook@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That's not what I wrote. I said they charger lower prices everywhere else but those are the realistic prices, you've said it a bit better though calling them heavily regulated. I didn't say they lowered their prices everywhere except the US. The US prices are not the standard to take for other countries. But once they lose that part of the revenue, the companies have to look now where to recover that money, easiest will be to raise prices across all other countries (if they can).

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

So we’re finally going to stop bankrolling universal healthcare in Isreal?

[–] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago

Does this ma think because we spend like double every other country on not even having free healthcare that we are subsidizing it for them and not that we are just giving medical insurance free money to make us pay more money for medical?