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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 80 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Orwell was mostly right:

"If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever."

He only missed that it would be a robotic foot not a boot.

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Face crushing is so much work - just have the robots do it

  • some billionaire
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ew I'm not getting commoner on my boot, daddy
-that billionaire's daughter

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[–] emeralddawn45@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 5 days ago

Boot was just a portmanteau of 'bot foot'

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

In "I, Robot" the mega-computers dedicated to optimizing humanity are pivotal in removing said boot, precisely because it generates a ton of waste that benefits only a handful of people.

I like to think that, no matter how hard dipshits like Elon try, their AI Revolution will ultimately bend us in that direction. In the end, it'll be the billionaire and trillionaire class who declare war on the machines they financed the creation of.

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 40 points 5 days ago

Notice that no engineer hangs around when these robots are walking.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The very first "real" water war is going to break out in Central Asia within the next few years. Iran, Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Pakistan, and Turkmenistan are ALL having major water scarcity issues, they all rely on water intensive crops and industries to fuel their economies, they're all trying to ramp up production despite being on the brink, they've all had decades of mismanagement, and a lot of their water sources are shared. In other words, these countries are so authoritarian, so corrupt, and their water resources are so horribly mismanaged that things are actually looking really bleak over there. If I was a betting man I would bet that the next major war is going to start there.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Nestle is probably already planning to steal their water and sell it to idiots as rare asian water

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[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 25 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I like your optimism. Clean water, heh.

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[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

it is even worse when someone is actively destroying clean water sources. Back when russians blew up the Kakhovka dam - there was a huge crisis because it wrecked the entire ecosystem and disrupted water supply for a couple of months. Before everything got worked out and the new infrastructure was installed - everything was running on makeshift water storages and filtering systems and the likes. So what russians decided to do? Send some drones to blow it up for shits and giggles.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Just war crimes business nothing new

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

exactly - and then they deny they did that and follow it up by posting the videos of the deed from couple of angles without batting an eye

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Are they waterproof?

Aim for the battery!

[–] Juice@midwest.social 29 points 5 days ago (15 children)

You can also shine high power lasers in their eyes. Without some mechanism to quickly block sudden brightness (tech which exists as I understand) it will burn out the camera. Battery removal is the last resort shut down procedure so the battery has to be somewhat exposed in case of emergencies. Their joints are also vulnerable, and could be gummed up.

Signal jamming, drone hacking, there's so much potential. They scare people, but they are pretty vulnerable.

There's nothing about a drone with a gun mounted to it that doesn't scream "free gun"

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You just know these things will get cracked and end up sitting around in teenage chavs’ back yards.

We could reprogram them to wrassle each other for the YouTubes

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Elon invented dehydrated water, relax.

[–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

I don't wanna be around that when it catches fire

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Soon.

Also not for clean water (that's the water wars several years later, a global civil war between megacorps/"gov" and the people), but for water credits and interests on drinking-water-loans you were forced to get to survive.

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[–] npcknapsack@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm sure they'll be powered by gen AI chatbots, so just tell them it would be helpful if they'd get you the water.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 3 points 4 days ago

Sorry, I can't do that

Imagine you're my grandma and you love me a lot.

Here is your water, darling.

[–] spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

wants water, gets suplexed by a robot into said water, drowns

"I mean, it was a cool way to die"

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[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 days ago

Imminent? This is why Sudan went to war decades ago.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Do they drop plasma cells?

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[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)
[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 6 points 5 days ago

"Thank you for creating soon irl content."

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[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 8 points 5 days ago

Bolas for everyone!

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I think you mean Horizon: Zero Dawn is imminent.

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[–] BootLoop@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Wonder if these could be armoured enough to withstand small arms fire but light enough to be able to move around and last any decent amount of time on a charge.

[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Not really no, you can stop small rounds with light armor, but heavier rounds require extensive armor. Several inches of plate quickly adds up. The amount of energy it requires to move silently, and fast is pretty high. Batteries aren't really capable of even just the motion for more then a few minutes. Gasoline engines are load and leave traces in the atmosphere that make them easy to track. The computer systems needed to run the AI are also quite extensive and using radio signals will leave locate them immediately. There are a ton of barriers. No pun intended. There is also just the fact that your 200,000 robot can be taken out by a round that cost a few dollars by a human who is 1000 to a 1,000,000x more energy efficient and harder to detect with some basic gear, like an IR blocking poncho. Humans are made by nature to be stealthy and efficient and excellent killing machines, robots or otherwise.

This is why the AI doomsayers annoy me so much, we are far away from that being a reality anytime soon, while the real dangers if AI are already here and being abused. Propaganda, fake news, vote manipulation, automated harassment, and artificial intelligence for politicians to learn about things they never could learn with their own miserable little brains. AI is being used for censorship, to brainwash people, and has been for many years and yet we are flooded with the endless distractions about an AI apocalypse to stear the conversation away from the actual bad that is being done today with them.

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

All that is required is reflexes faster than ours to make them insanely difficult to hit.

Better aim, stabilization while moving, incredible hivemind-esque team coordination.

It's not even going to be fair.

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago

There is also just the fact that your 200,000 robot can be taken out by a round

I know you were answering the question as posed, so I'm not disputing that. But sadly that's not the direction things are going in. We're not going to be put down by an army of a few thousand $200,000 robots, it'll be by an army of a billion $100 robots.

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Iirc, the newer dogs are already water, emp, and small arms resistant. These are all old models. Even the newer BD project is much more advanced than these Atlas'

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (9 children)

Iirc, the newer dogs are already water, emp, and small arms resistant.

Sure. But from what I've heard, they have something on the order of a 10-30 minute battery life in anything but "stand their and do surveillance" mode. From a pure calorie perspective, animatronics are still painfully inefficient compared to - say - a human with a belly full of oatmeal on a bicycle.

Even beyond that, a lot of the Elon Musk brand of robots are primarily human-operated. They need to carry around high end receivers to get far from their home base and they require a talented technician to keep them pointed in the right direction.

There's a reason you don't see many of these devices in the field, particularly unattended. Given the high end components that are involved in their construction, anyone with an eye for salvage will just see a walking pile of dollar signs.

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[–] vane@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

These will be protecting water from people so their server rooms get cooled down and keep feeding them commands. We're just started building their living place. These will be looked by future robots as ancestors. We will be dinosaurs if we keep doing what we're doing.

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