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Eyes Up's purpose is to "preserve evidence until it can be used in court." But it has been swept up in Apple's attack on ICE-spotting apps.

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[–] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 9 points 42 minutes ago (1 children)

"Which side did you choose when authoritarianism came to your doorstep?"

Looks like Tim Apple has chosen.

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 1 points 19 minutes ago

Beholden to the AAPL ticker.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Because corporations suck up to fashists if they are in power. That's all.

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago
[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 19 points 6 hours ago

Corpos are not your friends. In fact they are usually the enemy.

[–] vogo13@sh.itjust.works 36 points 10 hours ago

I'm glad the google play store never censors apps, oh wait. It's almost as if big corporations and now governments have no citizens best interests in mind, mind blowing.

“Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.” - Benito Mussolini

Dissolution of the Order of the Star

[–] CannedYeet@lemmy.world 26 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

My camera can record videos of ICE abuse. Are they gonna ban that?

[–] extremeboredom@lemmy.world 26 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I can't think of a reason why, with client side scanning, they couldn't in the near future implement a filter similar to this. Pictures and videos deemed "problematic" could magically disappear. And of course, your iPhone will send a helpful report to the local Gestapo branch. Eventually, "Sorry, network permission is required to run the camera app. You may not capture images of law enforcement activities per executive law. The camera will now be disabled until you comply."

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The thing is - the Internet itself is a fascist technology. Fascists, and especially German Nazis, used electric terms and analogies to refer to their politics. Mostly referring to unification of various parts into one network, except in their case the information medium really used was radio.

But the basic idea was that any kind of fascism thrives as means of mass politics. Anything unique, specific, individual is in conflict with that. But the Internet is the tool to slowly grind through that conflict, because it gradually reinforces one voice, one way and one meaning.

It's a very intelligent trap and one hard to believe in, but our world today is so much more fascist than even in dictatorships 30 years ago, that I think I'm right.

Also consider that the very shock of something so modern and new and comfortable being used as a channel of control is, too, what Nazis did.

And when you want to argue that in the Internet one can post their own opinions and create their own spaces and do their own things, think again. These abilities are inherent to reality as well. Make a thought experiment - could you whisper with your friends at a Nazi meeting in the back rows? Could you not even attend? Could you have private conversations on everything you'd want elsewhere? Yes, these all are true. But the only voices to be heard by everyone and reinforced by that system and order were those from the tribune, and millions of voices would answer them in one and the same way, and millions of hands would raise in salute.

And LLMs and such new tools are going to make this worse, because they are tools of situational speech accord with what you expect, leveled by the common average, just like fascism is an ideology of situational emotional accord with what you feel, leveled by the common average. Fascism is the extreme ideology rejecting logic and semantics, and the Internet on every level has been built to reject logic and semantics as a medium of communication of living people. And LLMs are an even more direct tool to do well only that, all the rest is attempts to sell it, but this is its main trait.

And let's recall again how that stopped - by spending all its resources and being defeated in a war.

A truly visionary and futuristic regime, honestly. It's funny how Nazis were so futuristic despite being blood and soil barbarians, and Stalin's regime was really reactionary despite dreaming of space travel, except Stalin's regime's official philosophy was dialectic materialism which is the only thing convenient to describe this contradiction.

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago
[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

This.... Is a very possible future

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 hours ago

That's what AI is for

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 24 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I banned Apple from my life a long time ago.

[–] bike_and_cargo@feddit.org 5 points 7 hours ago

Other big companies like Google are not better

[–] danhab99@programming.dev 33 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Why are these apps being distributed on app stores

Why are these apps not PWAs with an app store deployment wrapper???

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 20 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Every Lemming be like "what app do you use" meanwhile I'm like "...app? 👀"

-Sent via WebUI

(I don't keep stuff logged-in on my phone, incase a cop grabs it)

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 12 points 14 hours ago

"what app do you use"

"Uhhhhh Firefox?"

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 points 9 hours ago

Why are these apps not PWAs with an app store deployment wrapper???

Web wrapped websites are not allowed on either app store btw.

[–] PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world 66 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

People need to realize. There is no fair access to technology. You either bend the knee or have to create your own marketplace.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 9 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

Its why I have linux PC / laptops, and GrapheneOS on my phone (may get a fairphone next time)

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Me too, but the lords of Technofeudalism, backed by government, won't allow that forever. Maybe on PCs, but not phones. No "side loading" what they don't approve. Banks and co, only allowing their apps on approved OSs. No satnav traffic data unless you use an approved satnav, rendering them useless.

The problem isn't technological, it's political. We need decent government protecting citizens and enforcing competition laws. The problem is the population don't understand what is being done to them, so don't vote against it.

None of it is new. Liberty vs security, monopoly, etc, aren't new, but wrapping it in technology blinds most people to it.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 58 minutes ago)

Agreed on decent government...that is tech savvy. Ay leasy Fairphone is independent and you can swap the default android to Ubuntu touch OS

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[–] cabbage@piefed.social 15 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

I realize I'm not entirely free yet, but I sleep better ever since I changed to a non-Google Android ROM. Also because the path to proper mobile Linux feels shorter now.

Anyone still on Google Android: Look into making the change. It's worth it.

And if not, at least start getting your apps from F-droid whenever possible.

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 hours ago

Yep, switching as many apps as you can to foss apps, and moving to non Gmail based email services will make future switching way easier.

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[–] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

Time to smash the looms.

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[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 158 points 22 hours ago (21 children)

Send Apple feedback. They need to hear how unpopular working with Trump will make them.

https://www.apple.com/feedback/

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 124 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

OR stop buying ANY of their products

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 90 points 22 hours ago (28 children)

Well, both, really.

Make sure they know you won’t be buying their process anymore because of these policies.

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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

If you are still using an apple phone in times like these then you are not taking your life serious enough. Big techs power will absolutely fuck things up in the coming series of purges in the US and people are totally unprepared for it.

[–] F_State@midwest.social 8 points 15 hours ago
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[–] KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 65 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

So if we ever take back this country, we've gotta destroy Palantir, Apple, Google, Meta, Disney, Microsoft, Amazon, CVS (working to compile a medical database on all USAmericans)... and every company that backed Trump's Nazi campaign. Start making a list now. The corporations alone will be a life's worth of work.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Basically every company over a certain size. They all got that big by unfair conduct or outright abuse, because your market laws are way too lax and regulators look away.

You have created menaces that the rest of the world (and the environment) has to deal with.

[–] trajekolus@piefed.social 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Add Tesla, Starlink & Oracle

[–] KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 hours ago

oh, yeah, of course Musk's companies go on there.. and I saw a few things about Oracle's surveillance efforts.

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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 70 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

why is luigi so popular and adored they ask

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[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 36 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Why do you need an app for that, when it can be blocked from both app stores? Did people forget about self hosted websites?

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 31 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Baguette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Unironically yes, mostly cause most websites on mobile are the most horrid experience and an app for the average audience is just how phones are nowadays

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 8 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Also some shady company can get full access to my photos, contacts, call history, location data, camera etc. when I use their app to remind me to buy tomatoes and eggs. its just how things are in 2025 🤷 /s

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[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Very light on the details here. How did the app do this? What was the functionality of the actual app? From looking at the play store it seems to be basically a LE tracker as well, no matter how much they want to say it isn't. Getting cute and saying "no my app where you can tag where ICE agents are and upload photos of the ice agents isn't actually to track ICE agents, it's just a photo sharing app" doesn't actually work, no matter how much people on sites like this think it does.

Also lol at this:

Mark asked 404 Media to only use his first name to protect him from retaliation.

He released an app on the apple store, they know who he is.

[–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 55 points 22 hours ago

Ohh wow a mega corp who pretend to do care about your privacy is collaborating with the government doing Nazi cosplay

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