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[–] pantherina@feddit.org 2 points 18 hours ago

Unpopuläre Meinung: USB-C ist überbewertet

Für Smartphones, Kopfhörer usw super. Aber schon beim Laden von Laptops sind die meisten Ports so wackelig, dass ich die nicht nutzen möchte.

Clevo's und Thinkpads (die alten runden, die mittelalten rechteckigen) haben gute Ladegeräte die ne vernünftige Größe haben und nicht so fragil sind!

Super USB-C auch dran zu haben, wenn man dann zB ein smartphone passiv laden kann wie Thinkpads es können. Aber zum selber laden benutze ich den magischen Port nie, sonst ist er schrott und ich hab meine schnelle Datenübertragung mehr.

Auch für Display benutz ich immer direkt HDMI, das ist wackeliger als Displayport (Satan verdamme das HDMI Forum) aber viel robuster als USB-C

Statt vielen Kabeln haben wir jetzt Dongles, weil Hersteller es als Ausrede nehmen weniger sinnvolle Ports zu verbauen. Na toll.

Bin selber aber am umrüsten meiner Kleingeräte. Ports verlöten kann ich momentan noch nicht, deswegen hab ich mir einfach adapter gekauft und bjn fast usb-c-only!

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago
[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

iPhone be Like ⚡️

[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You have a USB-C connector on a book? ....what for?

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For charging the battery duh.

[–] stormeuh@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The battery that was placed there in case they ever want to withdraw your license to that book, which they can do by shorting out said battery.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

No silly the battery is there so the book can play videos of subway surfers on the side while you read.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks EU. Apple hates you for everything good you do, and I despise them for 99% of what they do.

[–] pantherina@feddit.org 1 points 18 hours ago

Wait for the DMA 😉 They really hate when it is enforced

[–] Tehdastehdas@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago

Not quite. My new phone doesn't accept fast charging from my old phone's fast charger.

[–] kalapala@sopuli.xyz 43 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Electric bikes and electric scooters should also have this same standard but no every bullshit company still has their own proprietary DRM charger.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oh God, that would take ages. I think I'd rather everything be on XLR for heavy duty applications like ebikes and scooters.

Up to 15A, I think.

[–] Pringles@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Wouldn't that charge very slowly then though? A usb-c charging port seems a bit underpowered as soons as you need to charge something larger than a notebook.

[–] bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

USB-C can do 240 watts. That's the low end of a bicycle fast charger. A standard charger is closer to 150 w.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

damn, both impressed and uncomfortable without so much juice going thru a phone charger.

[–] excral@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's done by increasing the voltage to up to 48 V when the device requests it and both the charger and the cable support it. At 48 V that's "only" 5 A, which isn't nothing but nothing to worry about, and your phone will never request it and your normal phone charger won't be able to output this much power anyway.

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is there any indication how much power a USB cable allows if I see them on a shelf? They all say "USB c" and "fast charging", but hardly get into specifics. And a higher price doesn't necessarily mean the cable has higher or better specs.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago

The cable I recently bought at Microcenter mentioned support for 24 and 48v charging.

[–] FleetingTit@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

USB PD (what is needed for those high power levels) does a handshake where charger, cable, and your device say what power level they can take. So your phone will never recieve the full 240W, even if the charger is rated for that.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter if it's usbC and it probably shouldn't be, but it should be standardized for the application/size

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago

Hmm. So should our mid-size power standard also be able to push data? And then maybe a third standard for EVs and similar. If AC is okay just a standard plug will do it.

[–] fleck@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Don't really have a clue about e-bikes. But looking through some e-bike chargers on Amazon, they have maybe 100 W to 200 W. USB-PD (EPR) apparently supports up to 240 W. Do note that the e-bike chargers are rated at 54.6 V, though, while PD only supports up to 48 V, and I guess the higher voltage might be required for the cell chemistry. So idk if it would be possible to design your batteries around the USB spec. In any case, you would need a separate charger and special cable to support 5 A over USB anyways.

[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It would be possible to put in a voltage converter that would boost the 20 volts that's relatively common for USB-C/PD devices to whatever voltage the battery pack needs to charge while increasing the losses on the charge.

A 200 watt charger for a 48 volt 20 amp battery would be okay, but it would take like five to eight hours to charge depending on what kind of losses are involved.

It's pretty rare to see USB-C charger that can handle 200 watts on a single port. More common is like 120, so it would take closer to 10-12 hours to charge that battery with USB-C versus a barrel plug.

And even if the cable is able to handle the 200 watts or more, it would be on the user to remember that they can't plug in their 15 watt charger and actually charge their ebike battery.

So once you take all of that into consideration, given that you're going to need a separate charger specifically for your e-bike battery, then why would it even matter that it's USB-C?

[–] fleck@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

yup, my thoughts exactly, don't really see a any benefit for using USB-C here. What would be good of course is to have any standard at all for these connectors.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm not aware of any cell type with more than a few volts of potential. If we're designing from scratch you just put fewer of them in series in each pack. There might be problems getting other components conductive enough to facilitate the needed power transfer at a much lower voltage, although now we're outside of what I really know. If it's 40V it shouldn't be a problem.

While you're at it standards for higher power DC would also be good. IIRC there's a few in competition for EVs right now.

[–] fleck@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's what I thought too, initially. But then I thought that maybe there is a good reason for the specific 54.6V figure. But I didn't dig deeper

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Good point. It's probably an integer multiple of the (nominal? State of charge comes into it too) cell potential. Which is fine, as long as there's another one that's reasonably high but below the USB-PD maximum.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My laptop takes 300 watts from a proprietary charger and will only charge via USB-C when off. I don’t think it’s enough power for a bike.

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[–] SARGE@startrek.website 6 points 2 days ago

I have begun soldering in my own xt-60 connectors for battery packs.

[–] silt_haddock@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Don’t forget kitchen scales!

[–] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I never thought I'd see the day when the universal serial bus was actually universal

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 19 hours ago

There's still a bunch of different standards for charging and data and video so we're not there yet.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 25 points 2 days ago

I was about to say “Thank the EU for that” and then I saw which community this was posted in.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 days ago

Joypad: "I think sitting me next to vibrator is causing some confusion about what I do. Anyone want to trade places?"

Soundbox: "No."

Also are we just calling eReaders just "books" now? I don't think books use USB.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 20 points 2 days ago (5 children)

My adult toys are now the only things I have that are still MicroUSB (or like a 3.5mm jack type connector)😮‍💨

[–] BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Both mine and my partners' have the same magnetic 2 contact 5v charger so we get to share cables.

[–] RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That 2.5mm jack connector is super weird

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 10 points 2 days ago

I guess it makes sense because it's on things that could get wet and the plug is often behind a tiny slit in the rubber/silicone.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

My hearing aids use microusb. Plus side: this means my wife doesn't unplug them to charge her phone. Down side she does unplug them to charge the portable battery packs because she's terrible at keeping her phone charged.

you either got really good quality toys, or you aren't using them enough to replace them

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I just recabled two KVMs and I have to do it all again when the replacement comes in.

The moment two video cables and USB are merged into a single USB-c for all my gear, I'm gonna jump for joy.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

USB-C screwdiver??

Me still perfectly fine living in the dark ages apparently.

[–] Blum0108@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 4 points 1 day ago

that's not what she called me!

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Never had to put up a lot of cabinets?

(I can't find the clip I'm referencing so I hope I didn't make it up)

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have a 2019 DeWalt set for those type of tasks, y'know the rechargeable drill with interchangeable bits.

But a USB-C screwdriver sounds like something to put in someone's Christmas stocking.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

My thought process was similar when I first heard of them. I asked my most handy friend why electric screwdrivers exist when drill.

He said that it was primarily because sometimes low torque was needed for delicate tasks and it's much easier to control that in a less high powered device.

I've never had real cause to use one, but that explanation at least seems plausible.

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