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[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 15 points 9 hours ago

These people are actively willing George Orwell's nightmare into being.

The Ministry of Plenty's forecast had estimated the output of boots for the quarter at one-hundred-and-forty-five million pairs. The actual output was given as sixty-two millions. Winston, however, in rewriting the forecast, marked the figure down to fifty-seven millions, so as to allow for the usual claim that the quota had been overfulfilled. In any case, sixty-two millions was no nearer the truth than fifty-seven millions, or than one-hundred-and-forty-five millions. Very likely no boots had been produced at all. Likelier still, nobody knew how many had been produced, much less cared. All one knew was that every quarter astronomical numbers of boots were produced on paper, while perhaps half the population went barefoot.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

It might help things if he stopped slapping higher costs on everything.

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 17 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

10 minutes ago my wife came home with about $400 worth of groceries.

A similar amount of food / paper products literally would have been closer to $250 this time last year.

[–] vic_rattlehead@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

Wow so you guys are set for the week then?

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

And about $150 some years back

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 23 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Trump says lots of things. Almost all of them are lies.

[–] n0respect@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

He's been a known liar for almost my entire life, since the 80s. Taking his word as truth is just ... mind boggling.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 21 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

Inflation is substituted by price hikes on everything he slapped tariffs on. There’s no difference to the everyday person, prices keep going up.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I was in Costco the other day, and there were a shocking number of people loudly complaining about prices. Usually people in the store will keep it to themselves, or maybe grumble a bit and move on. But they were truly getting worked up.

GOP is really playing it stupidly. The number one way to get violently overthrown is to make it hard for people to put food on their plates.

[–] Mangoguana@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Nahh, gop knows americans will never protest anything since they gotta be good little boys and girls and go work and not make any noise, no damaging anything nada.

Lets be honest, the closest thing you guys have in regards of protesting or holding anyone powerful accountable are mentally ill shooters.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago

On everything but an hour's work, yeah.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 20 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Just because the shutdown leads to missing data does not mean nothing bad has happened.

I wonder how the final tally for the Trump "administration" will look like. It will probably take decades to fix what the orange turd and his cronies have broken.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

That's assuming someone else comes to power and actually tries to fix it. Both assumptions are pretty big at this point.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago

By the time Trump is dead, you will be well past fixing things and into start over territory

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 11 points 23 hours ago

He took items from the top shelf and moved them to the middle, see, groceries are going down. Checkmate, libs

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 10 points 23 hours ago

HE also said he couldnt bring down groceries, in late december Early januarary, peppridge farm remembers.

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Being broke is good for the economy! 🫲🍊🫱

it's not, broke people spend less

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Inflation will not fall because cooperations are greedy. Whatever profits they make, that can be passed onto to consumers will go to investors and ceos

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 112 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

It is honestly hilarious how dumb the financial industry is for all its mystique, like the stock market hasn't crashed yet? It really makes it obvious how much of a pseudo-science Economics is, it is only useful to rationalize the behavior of the ultrawealthy, spoiled and stupid, not to hold them to any kind of account or ideological consistency.

The US economy is fucked and the fact that so many finance and economics people aren't screaming the alarm at the top of their lungs tells you everything you need to know about the intellectual integrity of these people.

[–] EightBitBlood@lemmy.world 79 points 1 day ago (30 children)

Hey there. I've got an economics degree and work in business. I've been literally telling people how we're in a massive bubble, propped up by fraud and snake oil for years now. The economists you're thinking about on TV have been enshitified just like everything else in the US. It got so bad someone created a Jim Cramer ETF that collected all his stock advice but did the OPPOSITE of what he said. That ETF had a 12% return in 2024.

So the advice you are hearing from "economists" is advice they were paid for. Real economists have seen the writing on the wall for years. We're spectacularly fucked. Like there's almost complete red flags across the board, and the stock market is likely captured and fraudulent and has been since 2008.

Nvidia's price is just propped up by all the AI investment, and it's worth is propping up others like Microsoft. The whole thing is an obvious ponzi scheme as total value in the market exceeds our GDP by 218% now. This literally means the stock market is at least 118% inflated bullshit.

Inflated because the SEC has taken 17 years to roll out the CAT system to prevent fraud that was created as a response to the 2008 crisis. 17 years, and the "fix" TV hosts cheered was so great in 2008 to prevent another crisis is just now as of 2025 kinda being used. I say kinda because it's not fully integrated, doesn't need to be used, and is currently reporting billions of fraudulent failures and trades nearly every day.

The system has been captured and tortured for years and anyone that knew what they were looking at and were vocal about it were laughed at by experts paid to disagree. I've been saying all the above for years, and people thought I was insane. Now you think all economists are insane because they've been paid to sane wash the bullshit I've been talking about for years.

The problem isn't economists, it's that you believe the people on TV are the experts instead of industry plants. Actual experts, they get ignored. All the time. Because they can't compete with the amount of idiots on TV saying the opposite.

So no offense, but stop listening to the people on TV who call themselves expert economists, expert investors, etc and just listen to someone who's actually experienced in that field. My opinion has been discarded for years as I've made hand over fist betting against our economy. Advice I've freely shared yet always been ignored because it goes against what the TV says.

Anyway, here's the next 3 years:

Massive recession turns into a depression. Starting now, but this Monday is going to be a pretty rough day for the stock Market. Maybe not another Black Monday that started the original crash in 29, but we're getting close.

Likely by this November, if not tomorrow, a stock market crash will happen. It's completely propped up, so just a matter of time until the money runs out. Seeing the dip in stocks and crypto at the same time last week screams massive liquidity crisis (big companies needing more liquidity to prop up the current ponzi scheme of AI.) And there's not many places left where liquidity can be found.

Anyway, the value of the dollar has already decreased by 10% this year. Which is an astronomically fucked thing for no one to be talking about.

So just FYI, whatever savings you do have, consider converting some of it into property / vehicles / assets with value as they will each retain their worth as the value of the dollar looses it. Advice you'll never hear on TV, but is actually viable if you want your money to have any of the same value it has now as idiots ruin everything.

[–] confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

property / vehicles / assets

Is this why every ad I see lately is from Carvana asking me to sell my car?

Are there any assets that don't require a bunch of maintenance you'd recommend?

[–] EightBitBlood@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

100%, thats why a lot of companies are trying to buy houses / cars / etc. For the last few years the writing has definitley been on the wall.

I do have one recommendation for an asset that requires no maintenance, but a lot of people aren't going to be happy when I say Bitcoin and Ethereum are worth investing in now more than ever.

Both are fairly simple to own, you don't need to buy a whole coin, just a fraction, and self-owned wallets are still legal. (Which let's you stake your crypto for a nice 5% or more return). I've made 12% staking Cardano, beating nearly every bank savings account in existence. It's very easy to do the same with Ethereum.

Crypto in general is certainly full of scams, but the foundational tech and the coins that come from it are certainly worth holding now more than basically any other currency. All currencies are basically tied to the Dollar for dumb and complex reasons, so crypto is literally the only thing that will not lose value as the dollar does.

Not much maintenance to hold it either. Just do research to be secure with your wallet. I hate Coinbase, but they are certainly the best at getting you started. Diversifying into crypto is likely safer than any other physical asset too at the moment as there will always be a buyer. (Not as easy for a car to become liquid)

And a note: for anyone that wants to argue about crypto, please understand I see it as something that is both a currency AND commodity. So know that I belive it has the strengths and weaknesses of both. Most crypto debates categorize crypto as either one or the other to focus on the weaknesses in each. Yet crypto has a return better than any other investment in the last 10 years, likely because there's value in something that works as both a currency and commodity.

Anyway, it's probably not the answer you wanted, but Crypto, specifically Bitcoin and Ethereum are a great way to diversify against uncertainty when bluechip markets are now as uncertain as crypto ones.

Next best after that is appliances, but same issue with maintenance.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

the dollar is a fiat currency and only as strong as the FED's ability to tax american citizens. if the US should ever break apart for any reason, the dollar would become completely worthless. and guess what's about to happen in the next 10 years or so...

[–] EightBitBlood@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Well said. Additionally, the Dollar also gets weaker when there's more of them that have been printed AND those new dollars aren't being spent. We printed a whole lot of money in 2020 and after, and now basically none of those Dollars are being spent:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M1V

I don't think the US is going to break apart, but it's very likely the current administration twill try to invent a new US currency to hide the failing Dollar.

Their recent Crypto scams indicate they are trying to mint an actual US Dollar Crypto coin, which would be even worse than the US splitting apart imo. Mostly because that would turn existing dollars into Micky Mouse bucks that have no actual value. The US becomes a Peter Piper Pizza place you can never leave because they run on US dollar "tokens" instead of the rest of the world that runs on real currency.

[–] drhodl@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Thank you for taking the time to write this. I appreciate the information!

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

eh, my guess is this bull market doesn't stop until trump croaks.

the day he dies spy jumps 10% and then it craters 30%+ eod.

corruption and war are bullish as fuck

[–] SupahRevs@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

https://finaeon.com/the-nazis-and-the-stock-markets/ This is how I see it. We've had an easy money environment since 2008. Wealth has piled up at the top. They will want to be part of "winners" in the captured economy under authoritarianism. Look at Palantir, Tesla, Fermi... Rich people are betting on connected companies, the rest of the economy will suffer but that is irrelevant to the gains made by the top winners.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I see it the same but they always find ways to circumvent a crash and fuck it up even worse. So I've been waiting, even hoping, but it's not happening.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 4 points 21 hours ago

I see it the same but they always find ways to circumvent a crash and fuck it up even worse.

Yeah, that'll happen until they can't anymore.

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[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

economics doesnt run the stock/futes markets, gamblers do

and i guarantee you anyone whose worked in finance long at a serious level knows this very well. nobody big will scream the alarm until they're positioned for the crash.

the banks won't do shit though, because they fully expect uncle sam to bail them out on the taxpayers dime again like they have many times before (and they probably will)

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 23 hours ago

its basically clout for the rich and wealthy, to hide behind.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is some rational market behavior. Look to the skyrocketing price of assets like gold. A significant part of the market recognizes that something is very wrong. Gold isn't supposed to skyrocket while the stock market is generally improving. This reflects a significant fall in investor confidence.

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

You know what is going to reduce inflation? Doubling the tariffs! Those magical tariffs applied indiscriminately on everything

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Doubling tariffs today will make it look like deflation occurs harder when they drop the tariffs later.

A few people will show the data correcting for tariffs, but will be drowned out by the "we did it, prices have come down for Americans" message.

[–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 27 minutes ago

Will businesses be able to trust that he won't just apply them again if he has a bad hair day? Even if they did, I can imagine that lower costs for companies would just be used to increase profits, not lower prices.

[–] GaryGhost@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe I'll end up living in a tent, fuck it

And you can afford that tent thanks to paying for it in 12 high interest payments!

/s

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, yeah. Even if inflation stopped, prices have already been jacked up so much relative to wages, that's what happens.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If the Orange turds lips are moving he is lying.

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (3 children)
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