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Hi there, in the upcoming kbin releases, I will be describing the changes along with author tags, but for now, you can check out what's happening here: https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/activity, as well as my personal feed: https://ernest.dev

Today, two test instances will be created where we will be looking for bugs for some time, and then the changes will be rolled out to kbin.social and hopefully other instances as well :)

I want to accept as many pull requests as possible, currently, there are still 50 open ones. I'm also following your posts and adding new things to the to-do list.

Have a nice day!

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[–] Mnmalst@kbin.social 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Appreciate all your work and I am enjoying kbin but please make sure you are not burning yourself out. I have seen it too many times, especially in open source projects that become super popular all of a sudden. Take care of your mental health and work at a pace that you still enjoy. You don't ow us anything.

Have a great Sunday!

[–] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's quite a few of us now helping out with tickets. Great to see lots of people coming together to make the site better. Good to get lots of bugs squashed :)

[–] Mnmalst@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Love it! But that is or can be part of the "problem". Suddenly it's not "I am working on the software I like" anymore but "managing merge requests all day". Not saying that's what's happening here tho. It can be a problem.

[–] ernest@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@Mnmalst Yeah, I am well aware of what you're talking about, and I am trying to maintain a balance. I knew that it could look like this at a certain stage, but I didn't expect it to happen so quickly ;) I assumed I would have a bit more time to prepare and acquire knowledge. Now I have to improvise. I make mistakes, but I try to fix them and always keep an eye on the big picture. That's all I can do. Working with pull requests is great, I enjoy learning new things from others, and it's also fun to discover bugs together. At least for now. ;-) But I always emphasize that my priorities are my milestones, which keep me afloat, so I care about organizing our collaboration as quickly and effectively as possible. However, we also need to get to know each other a little better.

[–] Mnmalst@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Sounds like you have a working structure for now. :) I hope it all stays like this for you. I am exited about the future! Wish you the best.

[–] CoderKat@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

I think it's important to not have a single person having to deal with those. But admittedly it's hard to get to that point. I've only significantly done established, commercial software dev, where you can just trust your coworkers. Random people on the internet are harder to trust. Anyone can play nice for a couple of days for a chance to slip in something malicious.

The project is not only rather new (so any contributors are gonna be new), but it's also hosted on an unfamiliar site (which is to say, it's not GitHub), so most people don't have an account with history either.

[–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'm really looking forward to https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/pulls/167 . Maybe I'm just old or something, but the indent is quite slight sometimes and hard for me to see what belongs at which level at certain levels of nesting.

I wish I could contribute, but I've hardly touched anything UI-related in a decade, and likewise haven't worked with newer PHP at all.

[–] McBinary@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

This script does collapsible comments with nesting. It's fantastic.

[–] mohawk@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Yes! Collapsible comments is my most painful missing feature.

[–] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm super super keen on that one. It's actually the reason I got kbin running locally, so I could implement a quick toggle open/close for deeply nested comments.

Been following that thread and hope it gets out soon, it's something I severely miss from Reddit mobile.

[–] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

I just wish I could hide things I've already read. I hate having to scroll past 100 things I've already seen/commented on.

Stay safe and don’t burn out.

Make the donation page more prominent!

[–] DrChickenbeer@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

@ernest just want to thank you for all of the hard work you've done and are doing. Kbin is something really special and you've been going above and beyond with it.

[–] ryan@the.coolest.zone 6 points 2 years ago

Thank you for all your continued hard work, Ernest! I can't imagine the amount of work you have put in as a server admin, as a developer, as front line support, etc.

For those people reading, if you have the means you can buy Ernest a coffee to thank and support him and his efforts.

[–] FakeJake@fr3diver.se 5 points 2 years ago

Jumping on this to mention two things:
Firstly, thanks to all that are helping develop this. Once I got our instance up and running i was impressed with the whole thing. Potentially related: I have more gray hairs now. Let's just say I'm glad to see that work is being done to simplify the docker setup and improve the admin documentation.

Secondly, one behaviour I've noticed is when searching for a new magazine/community, one of the instance admins is listed as owner and moderator and is automatically subscribed to this new (to our instance) magazine/community, and the created date is listed as when we first searched for it.
Is this a bug (known or otherwise) or expected behaviour? Just seems a bit odd...

[–] darkevilmac@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Somewhat off topic but does kbin currently have a working API? Every instance I've attempted an API call on just errors out. Same thing when running a local test instance.

Would also likely be a good idea to distribute an OpenAPI spec so people can automatically generate API clients in the future.

Thanks for making such a great platform by the way. Genuinely impressed what a solo dev is able to build with activitypub.

[–] rideranton@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Dantastic@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How is an app being developed for kbin without an api?

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[–] ngmi@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Please don't make me scroll the whole thread with comments just to reach the comment input. Super discouraging

[–] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

Yep, this one has been brought up a few times and it looks like it's under discussion (the idea of it being at the end is to encourage everyone to read first etc)

While that's a good philosophy overall, a thread like this is a perfect example of why we should have one at the top also, you just want to post a quick comment saying thanks for the work and move on, having to scroll heaps far especially on mobile is rough

[–] 0rito@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm sure it's something that'll be moved at some point, but for now - it's in KES.

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[–] demvoter@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

+1 this needs to be fixed

[–] Perry@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Will the test instances be publicly available?

That would be greatly appreciated by us over at /m/kbinStyles so that it’s possible to see that everything still works before the new version goes live.

Obviously not exactly high priority, but I thought it was worth asking anyway.

[–] ernest@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Sure thing, I will manually approve accounts from time to time. These scripts are mind blowing ;)

https://lab2.kbin.pub/
https://lab3.kbin.pub/

[–] 1Fuji2Taka3Nasubi@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Was lab1 destroyed by a zombie outbreak?

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[–] tal@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Some of the userscripts could, longer-term, be converted into server-side Web UI features; I think that that'd make them available to a wider audience, since they become available to all browsers without user effort then. However, for any that don't, I also imagine that it'd also be possible to set up some sort of automated regression testing using Selenium or something like that that warns if it looks like they aren't working in a new version. That'd take load off human userscript maintainers if the userscripts are going to be around for the long haul, and it'd give a heads-up earlier, potentially as soon as the breaking commit goes into git.

[–] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Cheers for the ongoing support mate. I've been pretty keen on contributing and getting some of the UI/UX polished up, keen to see these all hit prod so everyone can benefit ❤️

Love to make the experience on mobile good enough that if you want you won't even need a third party app.

[–] Dentora@kbin.dentora.social 2 points 2 years ago

Hey, just wanted to say thanks for all the hard work!

[–] frasassi@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Cool stuff, thanks all for the hard work it's appreciated!

[–] lml@remy.city 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thanks for the great work on this @ernest and every contributor who's dove in and made a PR.

EDIT: Interestingly that @ mention does not work on my instance, but it does on kbin.social EDIT2: fixed, yay

[–] ernest@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You are writing from your instance, so it's @ernest@kbin.social. In the future, there will probably be some sort of suggestion when mentioning people, similar to Mastodon.

[–] lml@remy.city 1 points 2 years ago

That'll be slick!

[–] albatros@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Nice!

The PWA rotation issue is really annoying, happy to see this will be fixed. :)

[–] ripcord@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Which issue? Don't see it in the links and I'm not seeing anything I can think of that sounds like that (I'm using the PWA on Android, but using Firefox so maybe that's why)

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[–] Cyzaine@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Definitely a big annoyance point for me!

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[–] AndreTelevise@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

A couple things I would like to see on kbin:

  1. Setting to switch the default homepage from "hot" to anything else, or add an option to only see posts from magazines I follow
  2. Setting to move the "make a comment" box to a place that's above the comments

Otherwise, this is pretty much perfect so far.

[–] dm_me_your_secrets@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago
[–] Gracklesniper@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Thanks for all the work you're doing!

[–] LollerCorleone@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

This is some good work! Excited to see all the improvements once they are implemented here!

[–] pjol@hejdu.lol 1 points 2 years ago

@ernest Hi, this open issue might be worthwhile looking into/raising priority on.

https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues/398

[–] DerpyPoint@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Keep up the good work! Hoping broken photos can be deleted soon

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