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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 30 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

Add this feature to minecraft, so if you wait too long, everything is just iron. Even the air blocks.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 days ago

Next up: ProtonDecayOrBust

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 2 points 4 days ago

TIME TRAVEL. what a great idea travel too far in the future and you're a brick

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 1 points 4 days ago

You're saying bedrock eventually becomes breakable?

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

10^-3^ years have passed since you made this post! Only 1503 orders of magnitude to go!
10^-2^ years have passed since you made this post! Only 1502 orders of magnitude to go!

[–] Friendlybirdseggs@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 days ago

On the grind

[–] KTJ_microbes@mander.xyz 9 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Okay. I need a physicist. How does that relate to the heat death of the universe. Is all iron-56 the most probable distribution of energy in the universe (max entropy)?

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Not a physicist yet, temporarily a high school physics and maths teacher until I can start my PhD

Fe-56 is the heaviest nucleus that releases energy when other nuclei fuse into it. Everything heavier requires energy, that has to come from somewhere else, to fuse. All things tend to keep doing stuff that release energy, and they don't like to do stuff that requires energy. So, in a long enough amount of time, nuclei keep fusing together while it releases energy, and stop when it starts to require energy.

At least that's what happens inside regular old stars. The vast majority of them will have an iron core after a certain amount of time.

It pretty much only takes nuclear physics into account though, whereas the actual universe is a lot more complicated and will thus probably not turn itself into all iron.

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 3 points 4 days ago

Least Energy. I.e. yes. Does be pretty good.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Not a physicist, but I thought the heat death of the universe also involved all the matter being sucked into black holes and turned into pure energy. There's a big chunk converted up front in the accretion disk, then the rest is converted into hawking radiation as the black hole(s) evaporate over the oodles and oodles of years.

Whether or not there are also lumps of iron-56 or other matter floating around in the cold void probably depends on the real truth behind dark matter and dark energy and their long-term behavior.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The heat death has everything spread out so your visible universe holds only you more or less. The most extreme models say matter to be torn to atoms, the less extreme expect solar systems to survive, maybe even galaxies.

Both agree the black holes will evaporate to nothing but Hawking radiation

[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 22 hours ago

Yeah the whole "big rip" or whatever the colloquial term is, is an interesting one to think about if the expansion just keeps on accelerating.

But from what science news I follow, I think our models and theories in that area are in for a shake-up. It will be interesting to see!

I think that is kind of orthogonal to the concept of heat death, though, which is more about entropy. Any universe that has a solar system or galaxy in it is far from reaching the state of heat death.

[–] Legianus@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago

Astronomer here, not necessarily. Generally, heat death just means entropy goes maximal, as in everything is as spread out as it can be and the heat everywhere in the universe is the same.

Not sure if on those time scales all gets sucked up by BH

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[–] Usernamealreadyinuse@lemmy.world 41 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Thanks, that is indeed a long time

Btw also known as a quinquagintaducentillion So cheers to that

[–] Friendlybirdseggs@sopuli.xyz 29 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Its actually 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,0 00,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,0 00,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,0 00,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years

Fixed the spaces

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I'm lazy how many sets of zeroes is that

[–] Usernamealreadyinuse@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Did you just type this out? Nice

[–] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Only Buzz Lightyear will get to see it :(

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Gotta change it to scientific

[–] Usernamealreadyinuse@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah i got this first, thanks! But it didn't give any meaning in size, after I saw "infinite" I knew more or less how long I should wait

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

It was mostly for the joke, as the scientific calculator answer is just the equation written with different notation.

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Please help I tried this experiment but my eyes turned to Iron how can I see inside the box?

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

You don't need to, I can tell you what's inside.

Iron.

[–] confluence@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Step 1: kill the cat in the box Step 2: make sure the cat isn't still alive when you're not looking

[–] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 18 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I didn't understand this one. Why would any matter eventually turn into iron?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 30 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Iron has the most stable nuclei because of... chemistry reasons... so it was thought most radioactive decay chains would effectively end there. This is also neat on an astrophysics level because iron is the last element created by first generation stars, so you'd get this grand entropic cycle that ends with a universe made of black holes, neutron stars, iron, and loose hydrogen atoms, more or less. In theory but not practice, probably.

For all human practical purposes decay chains end in lead though. The time scale in the meme is the difference between "effectively stable" lead and "as stable as possible" iron.

Tl;Dr everything below iron will get fused into at least iron by stars. Everything above will decay into iron.

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[–] ImWaitingForRetcons@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Elements with a proton number less than or greater than iron become more stable as they approach iron, and so, over very, very long timeframes, from random quantum tunnelling effects, will favour being iron over being other elements.

Thus, in 10^~1500 years, virtually all atoms in the universe will turn into iron, assuming protons don’t decay (which may or may not happen).

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[–] guber@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 5 days ago

Iron-56 is one of the most stable nuclei, along with nickel-62, so after untold time lengths, due to standard fissile decay/spontaneous fusion (possibly due to quantum tunneling), all baryonic matter decays into iron-56, and a little nickel-62.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 5 points 5 days ago

To my understanding, elements smaller than iron can produce energy in nuclear fusion reactions (like in stars and such), but bigger elements require a net energy input to make them fuse. Meanwhile, bigger elements eventually decay into smaller ones (though many take an extremely long time). So, given a sufficient not quite eternity of time for everything lighter to get fused together and everything bigger to decay, iron is the midpoint everything ends up as.

[–] Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

This post really resonates with me

[–] credo@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] quantenzitrone@lemmings.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

this aigen?

or does my slop sense tingle wrongly?

[–] AMillionMonkeys@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Wrongly, I'm afraid. I remember this series of "alot" illustrations from years ago. IIRC a web comic author made them.

[–] Kratzkopf@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 4 days ago

The origin of the alot is the blog hyperbole and a half, this article in particular. It is very cute tbh. I don't find it hard to believe that somebody drew this particular alot in response later on.

[–] MrLLM@ani.social 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I tried a few reverse image search sites, none of them could find that exact image, not even something similar.

Also, that font is really similar to what AI might use.

I’d say it’s AI slop.

[–] Kratzkopf@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 days ago

Similar alots stem from this blog from 2010

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