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[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

So the magaTs are now anti modification but still completely fine with mutilating young males with circumcisions. Yeah, checks out for more insanity form the cult.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 5 points 13 hours ago

The one thing brain worms McGee could have done and gotten a nod from me, and he fucked it up by throwing autism in there! Seriously though, I'm so glad my mom is as bull headed as she is and told the hospital staff to fuck off when they were pushing for that shit.

Like why is a cereal manufacturer still having us mutilate newborns?

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

i do wonder why trans children are their main target when the plastic surgery industry has many more people to bully

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

I'm not sure if they're main target, but they're certainly a target. Anyone who isn't behind them is an enemy.

[–] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

MAGA is just #newchristian hate

There’s a version of the bible they’ve been pushing that adds some “truth” to these nasty attitudes. And people love to shove it in your face “see!?! It’s printed here, it has to be true!!!”

[–] Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

Goddamn I love that shit. You know how many times I've been told I'm wrong for being an Atheist because "the Bible says God is real!" That line never gets old, I tell ya what.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

it's silly because maga women are getting boob jobs and maga men are getting hair transplants

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 4 points 13 hours ago

Maga men also are much more likely to take steroids and/or penis pills. And let's talk about semiglutides. For people who think modern medicine is evil, and all doctors and pills are trying to kill you, they sure are conveniently unaware of their own convictions when it comes to vanity.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

To be fair, as long as they don't crossdress, don't have gay sex and don't undergo genital surgery, they should be in the clear.

So as a trans person you're allowed to... change your name and pronouns? I think that's it, as far as the Bible goes.

[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

The Bible old and New testament is trans affirming although it has some passages against homosexuality. In fact the old testament says that eunuchs are allowed and even favored in heaven, but aren't allowed in temples. Jesus says that some people are made that way, some born that way, and some choose to be that way to serve God, but doesn't create a strong requirement to be kind to them, rather saying, those who can understand this should understand it. So both God and Jesus are trans affirming and says so in the Bible, but a man should not lay with another man and also there is a verse about a man should t wear the clothes of a woman, but I don't think that would apply to eunarchs which are not considered men or women or to have a gender.

This is actually a pretty cool loophole for gay people. If you are a bottom you could just become trans if you have to live in a religiously oppressive society. It gives at least one pathway to happiness and love, but I know there are many gay people who prefer to be masculine while also homosexual.

As a trans person I don't believe in religion myself but I do pray to God. Maybe an old habit. My idea of God isn't a skypervert, and authoritarian but more like a friendly spirit who helps people who have good hearts and teaches wisdom to those who have dark hearts, but still stay aligned with the ineffable platonic good.

Even as a child it always seemed really silly to me that a god would care about who you love or what you wore. That never made any sense to me. I always assumed God was more intelligent than your average human. People who believe those things are not really believers in my opinion. All their assumptions are obviously coming from a place of, not actually believing in God, but wanting to use it as a tool to hurt people they don't like. I see a totally different perspective. To me those people seem miserable and suffering in their own confusion and I always considered that to be justice for their own shittiness and their audacity to badmouth God out of their cynicism. God usually doesn't punish much, he will sometimes destroy, but when people abuse his name and know him not, then it's kind of fair game. They are in his debt and owe him for the trouble they cause him.

[–] HakunaHafada@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Some of the anti-homosexuality texts in the New Testament also have some missing context that isn't really applicable to the homosexuality of today.

What was frowned upon in the age those texts were written was the 'effeminizing' effect of being submissive in sexual activity, which males in society of that time (in the Roman empire) were expected to be strong, hard, dominant penetrators (manly qualities), not weak-willed, soft, submissively penetrated (feminine qualities). Abandoning manly expectations in society for feminine sex acts was unforgivable. That expectation of social/sexual roles contributes to the homophobia and toxic masculinity today.

Another Greek word that has been difficult to translate is arsenokoitai, which has traditionally been translated as 'homosexual' (and used as a proof text for the Bible's anti-homosexual stance), but later uses of the word seem to indicate it was 'rape or sex by economic coercion, prostitution, or pimping', which introduces an asymmetry of power of an abuser and the abused, which is far more problematic than homosexual activity.

[–] kofe@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Nope, changing pronouns is compelling speech according to evangelical extremists. Oh and changing your name should only apply to last name's of women and young girls getting married, cuz we gotta keep in mind however many states still allow child marriage.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 1 points 13 hours ago

Funny how it's only the religious Reich that even attempts to defend child marriage.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 22 points 1 day ago (17 children)

I mean there is shit like Deuternonom 23, 1

“No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the Lord."

Maybe just don't give a shit about some non-sensical book some dudes in the desert made up.

[–] procrastitron@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

You're giving transphobic bigots too much credit; no one reads a verse saying that eunuchs aren't allowed in the temple and infers that it's a sin to be trans.

They aren't reading the Bible and then developing prejudices based on what it says; that's not what's happening here.

Instead, what they are doing is starting with the prejudices they already have and then fishing through the Bible trying to find anything that even remotely matches so they can twist it into a post-hoc justification.

In this specific case, that verse doesn't justify their position in any way shape or form.

The only reason anyone would interpret that as condemnation of trans people is if they're actively looking for excuses to condemn them.

First off, that verse is talking about eunuchs rather than trans people, which is actually a really important distinction.

Further, that verse doesn't even say that being a eunuch is bad; it just says they're not allowed to enter the temple. which, for what it's worth, hasn't even existed for thousands of years.

Moreover, it is immediately followed by a verse saying the same thing about anyone whose ancestors (up to 10 generations back) were illegitimate children.

So, you can't interpret it as saying that it's a sin to be trans unless you also interpret it as saying it's a sin to have great-great-great grandparents who weren't married.

You're right that neither the Bible nor any other religious text is a legitimate reason to persecute people, but that's not what's going on here.

They aren't motivated by what the Bible teaches, they're motivated by bigotry and performing mental acrobatics to try to find anything in the Bible that they can somehow twist into an excuse for their bigotry.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 9 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

i mean it's a little outdated

but some of the lines are fire

"easier for a camel to enter the eye of a needle than a rich person to get into heaven" and "love thy neighbor" were good

maybe it's time for a rewrite

[–] laserm@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago

I think Leviticus has some lines about protecting immigrants, too.

[–] wookiepedia@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

maybe it's time for a rewrite

with ray tracing?

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 points 13 hours ago

New bible requires rtx 4060 or higher abs 64 gigs RAM.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 4 points 18 hours ago

and an AI chatbot powered by Bing

[–] Scribbd@feddit.nl 2 points 18 hours ago

And AI upscaling?

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

Deuteronomy more like Neuteronomy

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The verse was meant to discourage religious eunichs, as so many verses were just meant to enact a change within a group of people long ago, the entire book of Deuteronomy for instance was telling Jews a specific code to live by, including sanitation and hygiene laws. Good way to encode your culture's safeguards, bad way to ensure their future peace.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 4 points 19 hours ago

Yeah sure, all the uncomfortable verses always mean something different while all the positive verses are true and valid even without context.

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