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Another round of terminations, combined with previous layoffs and departures, has reduced the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention workforce by about 3,000 people since January.

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 78 points 5 days ago (8 children)

I don't understand. It just does not make any sense, even for a far-right autocratic regime.

The only explanation is that whoever is pulling the strings behind all those clowns really just wants to destroy the whole government & administration. Using crackpot media pundits as useful idiots.

[–] MrSmiley@lemmy.zip 94 points 5 days ago (7 children)

It’s called the Dark Enlightenment, they essentially want to accelerate civilization collapse so their utopian vision is realized. The financial backers behind Trump adopted this philosophy, and have articulated their plan: dismantle democracy, Balkanize America and establish a patchwork of technomonarchy city-states. People really need to be talking with their community about localization of production of basic necessities, otherwise it will be chaos, famine and death when the system fails.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 46 points 5 days ago

I'd think this is a crazy conspiracy theory, except that it's pretty much all written down in the open. No crazy links to obscure Catholic orders and Mason lore and George Soros. It's just "Peter Thiel listens to Curtis Yarvin, and Thiel is getting his money's worth from saving the Trump Campaign from financial ruin".

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

utopian

For them, sure. Feudalism is pretty utopian when you’re a king, not a peasant

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 5 days ago

Yeah, isn't it funny how their utopia is everyone else's dystopia? Ha! Hilarious! 😮‍💨

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Oof. I knew Peter Thiel and by extension this fucker's "philosophy" is behind it, but I guess I never realized how neatly it all fits until now.

Once again, dictators usually tell you what they want to do, better listen.

Except this time one has to be aware of the dictator behind the dictator, and way too few people are.

For Thiel, such a malleable (i.e. 100% corrupt) government must be his life's wet dream.

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The independent Texas power grid suddenly makes sense...

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Until it fails from yet another once-in-a-century ice storm this decade. But they'll probably blame meteorologists for getting the once-in-a-century "wrong" rather than understand the effects of climate change.

[–] MrSmiley@lemmy.zip 21 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Climate change and extreme wealth inequality are the primary drivers of civilization collapse. From that understanding, the actions of this administration makes perfect sense.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 7 points 5 days ago

Especially if combined with rampant diseases and resource depletion.

[–] Neps@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago

It is not because of what you think it is. They love the privatization of everything here its just for more capital. I've only ever lived in deep red states my whole life and have never had the power go out nearly as much as it does here. Can't wait to leave this shithole.

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Their utopian vision is really weird. I like having humans, they create cool stuff. My anime, tasty plebian food, and so much more are made by the hands and minds of ordinary people.

What is the point of being "rich", if all the neat things are gone?

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 3 points 4 days ago

Because they don't think these things are neat. They like anything bland and gold. They want everyone to like the exact same stuff so you know exactly how much more theirs cost. They want you consuming exactly the same things so they can control people through the product.

Individuality and humanity run directly counter to their power.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 5 days ago

It's times like these I'm happy that my mom still has her farmland and I spent all of high school working it. I need to invest in seeds.

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[–] kautau@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago

They do, group number 1, billionaires who want their own neofuedal kingdoms

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment

Group 2, Putin and Russia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Remember when Ronald Reagan said this in 1981?

government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.

American conservatives grabbed onto that line and have held it as gospel ever since. Kneecapping the government has been a major goal of theirs for over four decades now. You will sometimes hear people talk about "bleeding the beast": taking all the government benefits they can get their hands on and then dodging taxes, with the assumption they are helping to slowly kill the system. Unfortunately, there is no plan (AFAIK) for what they want the world to look like after the collapse.

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[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Less money spent on services means more money can be spent on the king’s new palace. At least that’s the way it worked in France long ago.

If the numbers are public, have a look at what your local dictator is spending it on.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Yes, Russia.

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

At this point, I'm convinced the motive for most of what the Trump regime does is gratuitous cruelty. Once you accept that explanation, all those motherfuckers do starts to make sense.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 4 points 5 days ago

Maybe on the surface. Once you realize that Peter Thiel is the main cash daddy behind the posse, and how beholden he is to this "philosophy", it makes even more sense.

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[–] broja@piefed.social 75 points 5 days ago

I have a friend working there. At least she was until 4 AM Saturday. But surprise, she's working there again as of Sunday. Pure chaos!

[–] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 63 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Fucking imbecile MAGA ghouls, all of this because of contention over well-established, well-researches, well-supported results from inoculation campaigns, and the ideology surrounding medical treatment for the trans community. A lot of people are going to get sick in the U.S. (I know, I know, they already are but Measles outbreaks are set to increase in scale and scope), and this is going to get really, really fucking bad. Expect for people that you know to start dying from diseases that were killing members of your grandparent's generation. See image of U.S. states affected by Measles outbreaks in 2025:

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 5 days ago (2 children)

vaccines? where we're going, we don't need vaccines!

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

(it's hell)

dies of Scarlet Fever

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (13 children)

Expect for people that you know to start dying from diseases

Eh, I've decided people need to learn the hard way. Meanwhile, I'll be getting my government-sponsored shots & boosters for free here in the south. Good luck with everything, neighbors!

[–] pahlimur@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Our youngest had some form of measles before she could get the MMR vaccine. Wildest part was taking her to the hospital and no one knowing wtf to do. The doctors all basically shrugged and said good luck. She seems fine now 3 years later, but her immune system seems wildly fucked up. Like totally fine to some sicknesses and horrible responses to others.

Edit: I mean this in a, "It's Illegal to say what I want to do to you" way. If you don't get the MMR vaccine when you could've, you are directly responsible for my child's suffering. I want you to feel that suffering.

[–] faxed@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/measles/measles-does-long-term-damage-immune-system-studies-show

Clinicians and epidemiologists have long known that measles infection increases childhood morbidity and mortality for as long as 5 years after illness, and measles in the pre-vaccination era was likely associated with at least half of all childhood deaths from infectious diseases.

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[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I've decided people need to learn the hard way

Bold of you to assume people will learn. Didn't you hear about that couple whose kids died from measles and they said afterwards that they still feel their decision to not vaccinate the kid was right.

Some don't learn, even after getting lessons the hard way. Others forget very quickly. Someone posted this scanned news clipping from the early 20th century in light of similar 'anti-masking' during the COVID pandemic. It's always the same types of bullheaded dolts, and they're not the only ones falling victim to their imbecile behaviour.

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[–] mysticpickle@lemmy.ca 35 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Only been let's see here... ah 4 years since the last global pandemic. Yep, good time to gut the agency tasked with responding to pandemics 🫠

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Gutting it again. Trump killed the pandemic response team in his first term.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

The first time he pulled any funding the US had for foreign pandemic prevention because Republicans don't see the point of spending money on another person. Just a year and a half before COVID started actually. Because they know better than anyone else that infections unlike illegal aliens respect international boarders and an endemic in Asia can never become a global pandemic that reaches American shores. That's obviously antifa propaganda.

/S incase it wasn't obvious enough

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

If anyone at the CDC is reading this: destroy the smallpox sample before trump decides to use it.

[–] jhymesba@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Yeah. Because just not looking for new diseases erupting is such a great idea. I hope Europe and China are doing their due diligence, and hopefully we don't have the next big disease kick off in the USA.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Oh it most certainly will. The worst pandemic is one full of ignorant people and leadership. They’re basically a powdered keg from a disease standpoint.

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[–] FE80@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Make miasma theory great again.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 days ago

I read this in Jar Jar Bink's voice

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Next pandemic is gonna be lit.

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

As in, the cities will burn.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 days ago

They already are.

DEC 10 2024 - Malibu

Malibu barbie was asked for comment.

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[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This looks like a silent invasion 70s script.

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago
[–] maxxadrenaline@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

So like kids can’t get measles vaccines? I had to. Measles mumps and rubella and chicken pox. Trumps want to pick and choose which one we get so we take one vaccine at a time?

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 days ago

Friend of mine working on big shit there got furloughed then fully fired as of Friday from the CDC.

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