Was expecting a lot of ml / ca rage. Was not disappointet.
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I'm from Eastern Europe and not even the hardcore communists here are in favour of Russia's war of aggression. In fact, the only ones in support of closer ties with a nation that has consistently fucked us over are the neo-nazis who want communion with the Russian Orthodox Church.
It's mental to see anyone on the left supporting Russia.
They believe a lot of what they hear about Russia is propaganda and not true. Oh boy would they get shocked if they actually got what they ask for. You would turn out that all of the propaganda was in fact reality, too often do those two things get confused.
Sometimes they will even go to Russia expecting a warm welcome and they get stuck on the front line and you never hear from them ever again.
Definitely happened to the conservative dude who moved his family to Russia for the bigotry towards Queer people and after signing up for the Army thinking he would be a welder got shipped to the front. Wife was getting increasingly desperate since there was no contact and he probably would have died before getting to talk to her again but the optics were getting too bad for the Russian government to ignore.
Its a bizarre quirk of Terminally online Leftists. Modern Russia is arguably an Organized Crime Ring that owns a country but also meets most if not all of the criteria for Fascism. State controlled media has even voiced support for return to the days of the pre-Soviet Russian Empire.
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The cognitive dissonace hits hard on this one, how dare you join a defensive pact!
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On 21 December 1991, Boris Yeltsin, President of Russia, sent a letter to NATO asking it to consider accepting Russia as a member of the alliance sometime in the future. In the letter to NATO, Yeltsin stated, "This would contribute to an atmosphere of mutual understanding and trust and would strengthen stability and cooperation on the European continent. We regard this relationship as serious and wish to develop this dialog on all fronts, both on the political and military levels. Today we raise the issue of Russia's membership in NATO, however, we see this as a long-term political goal".
Then, a bunch of stuff happened and both sides realized it was advantageous to not have Russia in NATO. Turns out it's easier to win elections when there's a cold war going on. You can read about it here.
Including Russia in the military alliance meant to safeguard others from Russian aggression seems wild. I know things were very different in 1991 and there were hopes that Russia would become like Western European countries, but it just feels like it would've made NATO pointless and not in the good sense of it not being needed anymore.
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