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"Yet, they never have the funds for healthcare coverage for all," said Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib.

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[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 7 points 20 hours ago

Aren't Argentinan soy farmers basically stealing American soy farmer's sales? Its almost like American farmers voting for this City Slicker Real Estate loser hate themselves or something.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

Argentina, Israel and Qatar first.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What a fucking dumb asshole

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 18 hours ago

Argentina is kicking back to the Trumps.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

#NOKINGS 10/18/25 - Find your local protest: https://www.nokings.org/#map

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thats 2.6 million dollars for every school district in the United States.

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 19 hours ago

Education isn't good for getting Republican votes

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So how much would it cost to give American's healthcare?

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 day ago

Health care somewhat pays for itself. Not the really sick people, but making sure workers are healthy to actually work properly has a massive return on investment.

The other part is taking care of general health. Things like cars, bad food, all sorts of pollution and so forth really are bad for health. If you have public health care it is often cheaper to fix the underlying issue then to treat the problems coming from it.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

0, USA has no interest in giving people free or extremely subsidized healthcare, they lose thier political wedge issues, trump card for both sides. the DNC can say they would to wet thier appetite, and the GOP can say they are against it, because of this or that is not effective. and also REPUBLICAN recepients make up a large percentage of medicaid, snap benefits too.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 68 points 1 day ago (2 children)

$40 billion was the entire annual budget of USAID. No matter what you think of them, they did provided essential aid to dozens of nations, and DOGE destroyed them under the pretense of lowering the deficit. Now we're spending that much money just to prop up one countries economy.

(Yes, I know they USAID is a soft-power tool of American imperialism, and is rumored to have been used as cover for CIA operations, but they also did a shit-load of global AIDs prevention work, and I'd rather have spent the $40 billion on that than bailing out a libertarian freak so Rob Citrone can get rich.)

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

its not even propping up argetina, its to bailout bassents friends.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

I don't think it's even, "friends," I think it's just Rob Citrone. It probably doesn't hurt that Melei has kissed Trump's ass, though.

[–] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I mean the entire doge "savings" were instantly wiped out by the $200 billion increase in military spending. And I say savings incredibly generously because there are a ton of studies that say the agencies and people they cut will leave a hole in federal capabilities that will end up costing the American people way more than all of the money they claim to have saved (Some speculate the massive cuts to the IRS alone will end up costing about $1 trillion in lost tax collections).

But this combined with the cost of the shutdown and the farmer bailout and so much more is just icing on the cake I guess.

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[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 179 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Yet, they never have the funds for healthcare coverage for all

But Agentina now has.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 138 points 2 days ago (4 children)

America is paying for Argentina's Universal Healthcare, without having their own.

The art of the deal, or something.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] klammeraffe@lemmy.cafe 32 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I guess Argentina read his book

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Millei is killing public healthcare, pushing to a US style system, with US medical corporations.

No wonder Trump likes him. He's an asshole.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago

Like they said, MAGA.

[–] xyzzy@lemmy.today 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I wonder what the US could do with $40 billion? By the way, that's nearly $300 per taxpayer.

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[–] card797@champserver.net 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The country is totally fucked up when he can just decide to spend 40 Billion on a whim.

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Isn't there a shutdown? Because they can't agree on a budget? And now there's no money even to pay government employees? So where is this money suddenly coming from?

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[–] perestroika@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

First of course, it's disrespectful to make insinuations to a sovereign country about whom they may vote into office.

Secondly, Trump doesn't have authority to give loans.

He's probably trying to deceive Argentinian voters with false hope of generous loans (which have to be paid back, I should note).

However, in the US, financial decisions are made by Congress. Certainly on the scale of tens of billons. The president has discretion to move far smaller sums.

[–] Appleseuss@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

This guy over here talking about what trump is allowed to do like he don't do whatever the fuck he feels like already.

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

This is going to end up with the US defaulting, isn't it?

[–] Bongles@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago

You are correct AND congress won't do anything about if he does it anyway.

[–] pticrix@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I guess I know where his next villa will be once his term is over

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 11 points 1 day ago

Going by history he's emulating, the last moments of his term will be spent in a bunker with the Allies rapidly closing in.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 88 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

I kinda missed part 1 of the story; what's the deal for Trump here?
He wouldn't be doing this if there wasn't something in it for him.


Oh and just in case somebody isn't 100% clear what Milei is about:

While Milei has ~~drastically slashed inflation, the reduction has come via the devaluation of the peso and~~ massive cuts in government spending, including the evisceration of social programs resulting in more expensive housing, healthcare, and education.

And Trump doing mafia style threats again:

“If he loses, we are not going to be generous with Argentina,” Trump told reporters. “I think he’s going to win, and if he wins, we’re staying with him, and if he doesn’t win, we’re gone.”

Lawmaker Margarita Stolbizer:

"Trump tells us Argentines that if we don't vote for Milei, we'll be punished," she added. "The interference is absolute, the libertarian surrender is total.

[–] hedgehogging_the_bed@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Argentinian government debt is mostly owned by big American investment firms like Black Rock. If their economy crashes, American Oligarchs lose $$$$ so they convinced Trump this is in his best interests.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

i think it was blackstone, and fidelity was one of the major investors.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 16 points 1 day ago

Yep, that makes sense. It's all about the whisperers behind the dick tater.

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[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Americans get the government they deserve (and voted for) 🐆🐆🐆🐆🐆🐆🐆🐆🐆🐆🐆🖕🇺🇸

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[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Out of curiosity, what does this do to the USD? I know it is a "small" amount relative to our country, but if they are swapping $40b in U.S. Dollars for a currency of high volatility, isnt it a guaranteed loss of believed stability in those USD up to that amount?

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[–] DarkDecay@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Making Argentina Great Again

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[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago

Someone has to pay for the upkeep of all those Nazi summer homes.

[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

For 40B, I could probably build a big enough carbon sink to fix global warming.

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