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(editing an earlier post)

Just finished this morning! Spoilers below. If you intend to read the book, do NOT go any further. You need to take this ride with no hint of what's coming.

Nothing from the movies or pop-culture prepared me for this mess.

We don't get a solid description of the monster, but apparently he's horrifying to behold. What? Did Frankenstein make him ugly on purpose?! We're not told where or how he came up with the biological material, no grave robbing mentioned. An 8-foot humanoid just sorta appears on Frankenstein's work bench.

So the monster wakes up (we're not told what caused this), Frankenstein is horrified at what he's created...

Let us pause a moment. Frankenstein knows what the fuckin' thing looks like, he made it! He set out to create artificial life and accomplished it. And now he's scared shitless the moment his goal comes together?! Y'all, he had plenty of time to think on this.

...runs out in the street for 2 days, his bff spies him and takes him home. Frankenstein (who's not a doctor BTW, he's a college kid) runs upstairs and is relieved the monster has ambled off.

"Oh thank Heavens that 8-foot abomination before God is wandering around loose. Not my problem! LOL!"

The monster spends over 2 years in a shed outside of an exiled, French family's shack in Switzerland. And in all that time no one ever looked in there?! Guess he's got some sort of cloaking ability, because he runs all over Europe without ever being seen. "Oi! Luv! Was that an 8-foot humanoid monster in the woods?" "Nah, probably another hill giant. Damned illegal Norwegian troll immigrants!"

Monster has a tiny peephole to watch the family and learns French by listening to them. So where did he learn the English he later uses?! Also, he learned to read from the family teaching a beautiful Arab girl that shows up. Whole 'nother story there.

Frankenstein is such a panicky little bitch that every time he gets upset he goes into a fugue and goes nuts for months on end. He does this at least 3 times, if not more. "Boo!" "I have to go to the sanatorium."

The monster has already killed Frankenstein's little brother and framed a family friend, getting her hanged. He threatens Frankenstein to continue fucking his world up if he doesn't make him a bride companion. Frankenstein and bff are going to Scotland where Frankenstein is going to secretly do this thing. He takes nearly a fucking year touring about. "We spent 3 weeks looking at cobblestones." "Hadn't you better hustle up in case the monster gets impatient?"

Frankenstein spies the monster watching him work on the bride, freaks out and destroys her right in from of him. Um, I would not piss off an 8-foot monster with superhuman speed and strength. Monster says, "Catch you on your wedding night! K I love U bye bye!" Frankenstein, while looking around the house for the monster on his wedding night, sends his bride upstairs, alone. Guess what? Chicken butts.

Core of the story is Frankenstein and his monster making the same exact mistakes, over and over and over again. Then they lament for 10-pages about how sorry they are. Then they do it again. You can find the plot on any given shampoo bottle, "Lather, Rinse and Repeat."

So much more weirdness. And BTW, I think Frankenstein should have married his bff instead of his cousin, seemed way more into that guy than her dumb ass. Hell, I'm straight, but that dude sounded pretty tight!

tl;dr: Every single person in the book is a drama queen. 150 pages of drama queen. Makes one wonder what young Shelly was like IRL. Starts and ends with an exciting dog sled race across arctic ice! Everyone dies in the end.

To Mary Shelly's ghost; You did fucking awesome for a teenager! Most impressive! Next time, get an editor, dial it in. Great arctic chase though! Also, nobody in 2025 gives a shit what Lord Byron, Percy Shelley, or John Polidori wrote for that contest. Smoked 'em girl.

One more thing. Why did you blank out the dates? August, 8th, 17__? 1701 was a very different time than 1799. What were you hiding?!

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[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago

I think you are viewing this book from the lens of today, after two hundred years of perfecting the genre. This was a rather new type of writing back then. Edgar Allen Poe was only 8 years old when this was written. This was an 18 year old author exploring a new type of story telling heavily influenced by at-the-time revolutionary philosophical ideas. Yeah, it's clunky, but it also explores things that weren't being explored back then.

Also, your question about how the monster was created was somewhat described. We ARE told where he got the biological material. He sourced the body materials from the dissecting room and slaughterhouse. Additionally, he didn't stitch the body together like the idea that was created by the movie in the 1930s. He discovered a fundamental element of life that could imbue dead tissue (not necessarily body parts, but not-alive tissues) to have it form into something that lived. This isn't a book about science, so the author didn't go into details for how the thing was created. Also, it's one thing to create a work of art that sucks if you aren't a good artist. It's another thing when that ugly drawing or sculpture you tried to make suddenly springs to life.

[–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 2 points 13 hours ago

A lot of supernatural novels used to do that with dates. And names sometimes. I think because most of them were set in real places (like in War of the Worlds the first third is basically my old commute) and authors didn't want people familiar with the setting thinking, "that's not right!" all the time.

[–] dumples@midwest.social 7 points 19 hours ago

I love reading the classics like Frankenstein. Not because they are all great but because you can see the origin of iconic pieces of culture. Sometimes you love them and sometimes you wonder why they got so popular. I remember liking Frankenstein when I read it but that was a while ago I forgot why. Got to try again

[–] J92@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

Didn't Polidori end up writing the first vampire story?

[–] miguel@fedia.io 6 points 18 hours ago

Couple notes you might find of interest: Depending on the version you read, most modern versions were heavily edited to make Mary Shelley sound more like her husband. If you can find the earlier ones, she's got a better tone, cadence, and less purple prose.

Also: I agree, that book is a freaking ride, esp for possibly the second sci-fi book of all time, and you're right that the movies pretty much skip the majority of it.

My favorite is that one of the best sci-fi horror stories of all time basically came about as an excuse to avoid talking to Lord Byron on a long holiday :D

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I also read this only recently and had a similar experience with it.

One of the things that stood out to me though was that for the entire length of the book, the only person ever mentioned to have seen the monster was Frankenstein himself. As you said, it's an 8 foot monster roaming Europe, and apparently there are zero sightings beside Frankenstein himself, who repeatedly just happens to see him in the distance. The only other people supposedly to have seen him are the French family, but Frankenstein only hears this from the monster's own account. And supposedly the few people that get strangled, but they're killed off page and unable to disclose their killer. Also the story isn't told from an omniscient narrator. It's all Frankenstein's personal account.

Given all that, the weirdness of this giant man seemingly randomly appearing, never being seen by anyone else, killing people off page, etc. and even Frankenstein's own account of making the monster in a vague fugue state sounding like a manic episode, or some kind of madness... I totally thought we were intended to think that maybe Frankenstein's monster was a figment of his imagination, his psychosis, and maybe that he was also the one blacking out and killing people. That would have definitely made the whole "Frankenstein is the monster" argument have a new meaning for me. But alas, at the end of the story, a third party finally witnesses the monster kill Frankenstein and confirms it's existence. I kind of wish it hadn't been seen. It would have made the story and all of the culture around the film assuming that the monster was real more interesting. But, oh well.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

Damn! That could have been an all-time twist!

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I have to say, I enjoyed it, but I had the benefit of the Bernie Wrightson illustrated edition. ;)

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

That's a lot of breakers and flasks...

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Leading theory was that, while a master work, it's also what caused Wrightson to burn out. He never worked at that level again.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

You can't make a freakish monster without breaking a lot of beakers.

[–] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

It’s funny how differently people can react to a book. I loved Frankenstein. I didn’t find it boring at all, and I thought the writing style worked, and the characters didn’t annoy me at all.

Now take Moby Dick. Man that book was a SLOG, and I hated the entire thing. And people love that book.

Shrug

Sorry you didn’t like Frankenstein. Maybe the next book you read will be your absolute favorite - maybe we are inverses of each other - try Moby Dick? :)

[–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago

Same. Loved Frankenstein when I was a kid, all thee way through to the final page (I remember having to look up the word, "conflagration"). Didn't make it through Moby Dick.

[–] CandleTiger@programming.dev 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Man I loved Moby Dick. The detail on the whaling ships, technology, life aboard, etc was great. The philosophy was not that interesting but easy to skim through.

Then years later I read somebody’s cutting response to something or other online, “That’s like reading Moby Dick and thinking it’s about whaling.”

… huh.

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait a minute. First, I completely agree that she won. By a fucking lot. But I have to hand it to Byron, he wrote what Polidori would turn into the whole fucking modern vampire genre. And I don't want to live in a world without The King of Cartoons playing Blackula. So here I am in 2025, caring very much.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

What did Byron write? Did it inform Stoker?

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

My drunk ass missed the second part of your question. Yes! Stoker took elements of the tropes that were started by Polidori as well as elements of Carmilla. Stoker is the guy who put it all together into a cohesive package.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Can you shoot my drunk ass something to read?

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Probably! There's the obvious ones since you like Frankenstein. So Carmilla (it's short and not everyone's cup of tea but it's the first place you'll see vampires shape shifting), Dr Moreau, Jekyll and Hyde, Dorian Gray, and about a thousand others that you could go read any thread and find.

If you're looking for something more modern, The Sorcerer’s House isn't bad. Modern Gothic-ish, less dreary than a lot of the others if that's what you're looking for. Perdido Street Station isn't bad and does a steampunk thing. I enjoyed The Death of the Necromancer.

And because I can't resist, Dragonlance Legends. Because it's time for you to reread them. Then reread Soulforge and I guess Brothers in Arms but I liked that one least of the 5.

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

The story that Polidori took and turned into The Vampyre almost 80 years before Stoker.

[–] djdarren@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago

It seems like your reaction to Frankenstein was very much the same as mine.

It's original for its time so I tried to read it through that lens, but man did I struggle with it.

[–] AliasVortex@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Thank you! It's been more than 10 years since, but 10th grade me struggled HARD to get through Frankenstein (it was a summer read for my English class), for pretty much the exact reasons you've listed out. The doctor is just such a whiny little bitch, I despised every moment spent with the character and was incredibly relieved when the monster finally put the little shit out of his misery (and by extension put an end to my suffering).

The part of my brain subjected to entirely too many English literature studies gets it: the notion of being so caught up in if something is possible you don't stop to think about the repercussions is super transcendent of time. Like, I keep thinking about Oppenheimer and the other scientists of the Manhattan project, so I can absolutely see how it would be a horror story from Shelly's time. At the same time, the rest of my brain can't get past the doctor being incapable of learning any lessons at all.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

This was my third attempt. Never made it past page 8 before. Decided to man up and choke it down. What a ride! A ride interspersed with, dare I say, monstrous boredom.

2025: "Ay yo! What up bestie!"

1816: "You have been my finest love and best friend for all the years of my life! When we were mere children frolicking on the bounteous shores of Lake Geneva, observing as Apollo drug his fiery chariot under the brow of (whatever mountain that was), I knew our fates would forever be entangled! No homo, but I would sleep in your arms at any time you requested such embrace! <4 more pages to say, "All good in the hood.">

Shelly wrote like she was being paid by the word instead of entering a writing contest.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

Two things:

Back then, authors were paid by the word.

In Victorian times, at least, people actually DID talk like that. The privileged class were taught extensively growing up on how to talk in overly flowery language and how to debate and express thoughts. Saying simple things in a very pretty way was a skill people practiced. The reason all books of that time have people talking like that is because some people did talk like that. It's weird for people of our time to hear it, since it sounds so contrived and excessive.

[–] AliasVortex@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm drawing from some pretty old memories, but from what I recall, Edgar Allen Poe is a bit overly descriptive like that sometimes, which makes me think the wordiness is part of the writing style for the time. It almost reads like the author is trying to do the "paint a picture" thing, which makes logical sense for the genre, a bit like a literary jump scare: paint a pretty picture, so that the spooky stuff is even more scary by comparison. I think my problem is that I tend to get bored with all the overly flowery writing and my brain wanders off (especially because Shelly likes to reference a bunch of geographic scenery that I don't really have the personal context to draw up a mental picture for).

That does make me wonder if a version of the book in a more modern writing style would be more palatable.

[–] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder if that had to do with far fewer entertainment options back then? I can see long descriptions being more acceptable prior to video.

We have an over abundance of entertainment options now, but back then options were few. If I only had a few books I could use for escapism as my only way to check out of reality, I'd probably prefer a 10 page story stretched out to 150 pages.

[–] miguel@fedia.io 2 points 18 hours ago

Writing has become far more terse and succinct over time. You can see it just going from 1900 to 2000, as the shift is fairly dramatic. 19th century English lit was incredibly overdramatic. French and Spanish were also overdramatic, but not quite to the degree of English. Late 20th century American/English lit is pretty straight-forward, and so there's not nearly as much difference between say, Hitchhiker's Guide or Discworld and the Expanse as there is between even Lord of the Rings and Discworld.

2000s on has stayed more or less consistent even if style has changed a little bit.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

You got me thinking! Maybe that style of writing was like medieval art. We look at the lack of perspective and wonder how the artists could be so lame. Maybe writers of the Romantic Age were finding their way around the same way, in fits and starts.

In any case, I refuse to believe humans spoke to one another in that fashion. Probably more like Shakespeare. (Not in exact words, but in brevity and tone.)

[–] NochMehrG@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

I do so agree with your tl/dr. All that whining really bummed me out!

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A couple months ago I posted a completely different review of the book. I enjoyed it, but I'm glad that I read it, so that I could enjoy your review.

Spot on send up of the whole book! You really made me chuckle.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Imma need a link on your review. Stat.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

That was great! I had already upvoted it but guess I didn't read it.