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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 1 points 13 minutes ago

Could you guys stop dumping your trash in the forest please? It obstructs my garbage trucks which I send to the forest to dump garbage in.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 6 points 7 hours ago

Everything converges to generic sameness

When I hit this sentence in the OP, I realized AI is going to remain very popular with the average joe for a long time.

People who are tech literate, actively curious about the natural world, and do crazy shit like care about humanity (so most people reading this, most likely) will still reject it for the junk it is. But it seems the vast majority of people around me are not like Lemmy users. I mean, they are called normies for a reason, and I don't mean that in a derogatory way.

Generic sameness seems to be what the rat race pushes people towards. Maybe being burned out and having the economy constantly innovating new ways to bleed you dry makes the pre-packaged commoditized comforts from the advertisements too easy to accept. I look around and I see people anger-driving their pickup trucks and luxury SUVs to their jobs that they hate so that they can afford the cars they drive to get there. Plus they need to be able to afford beer and snacks for the game after they fill up those gas tanks!

These people don't care if the stories and tiktoks scrolling past their glazed-over eyes are AI generated. It only matters if those things can shake that stubborn drop of dopamine loose that just won't fall from the faucet. Just get through the day so we can do it again tomorrow.

The problem is that the resource they consume to feed the AI, (human generated content) has become a limited resource, completely mined.

they could pay people to write, IE, news agencies pay writers to write and AI site are one of their clients.

you should get DMs from anthropic offering 50$ for your weeks posts and comments...

Instead they want to pretend they have still room to grow for free. but they can't

(That is just basic economic theory, I want those companies to fuck off already)

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago

Time to start working on the Blackwall

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Well, technically, the AI companies aren't making any profits so the actual cost is higher, and also the revenues from the AI articles are declining because people aren't interracting with them.

[–] Corridor8031@lemmy.ml 8 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I can not prove it but i think that already since a long time that most articles are copy + pasted and some kind of summary. Which might have happend automatically. Like someonr might write a real article on anything and then hundreds of sites copied it, without adding anything

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

The Huffington Post Effect.

Unfortunately, there's another side of this coin. The "original" content sources value freshness to grab attention and hyperbole to generate interest. The end result is Drudge Report / Brietbart / Alex Jones / Joe Rogan journalism that mills out innuendo, conspiracy theory, and quack medicine as Breaking News. And that becomes the "original journalism" all the other copypasta outlets reproduce ad nauseum.

[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Yeah I get the main theory you're going with and it's been rampant without AI bullshit. When sites became traffic driven to an extreme they started trying to grab whatever was the most rage enduring, verified or not. I forget the exact example but there was a guy that back traced a rage bait article and it was like 10 articles deep, and at the bottom it was a misquoted tweet that was complete misinformation.

[–] peetabix@sh.itjust.works 6 points 14 hours ago

There's no way an AI generated article costs less than a cent.

So humans writing articles cost more than the billions they're pumping in to AI? I very much doubt it.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The good news is that AI will eventually eat itself. The bad news is that all we need to do to make that happen is not exist anymore.

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 21 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

How is it a crisis? I'm expecting/hoping LLMs will just get increasingly worse as they are fed on their own slop, until they collapse into unusability and the world finally returns to sanity.

[–] notarobot@lemmy.zip 12 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

The crisis is that if the internet is bad enough that they can't train LLMs on it, it's also useless for us human. And if the LLMs leave because there is no information and we come back, eventually we will generate enough content that it will be worth it again

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 1 points 32 minutes ago

Eventually is doing some heavy lifting. The costs of these data centers and the power plants to run them has to come from somewhere.

I don't know if or when the chickens come home to roost, but it could go badly for the US and China to find out their spent trillions to make a million versions of AI shrimp Jesus.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.ca 3 points 14 hours ago

This is said as though it isn't an immensely expensive endeavour to run these things and the only reason they're this prevalent right now is the overspeculation and starved growth of US tech companies.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 15 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The crisis is that companies will have to pay fair prices for human labor again, which will lead to less profits for the precious shareholders

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 9 points 19 hours ago

Not just precious shareholders, it's a massive bubble that will impact the economy and peoples retirement when it bursts. They keep dumping more money into AI even though there are no returns.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 15 points 22 hours ago

On top of this, the scrapers that feed the AIs are creating more and more traffic, and therefor load on sites that did not have them before.

[–] PolarPirate@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 day ago (4 children)

So at this point we're gonna have to go back to reading books...

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 30 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Books made before 2019. Amazon is absolutely filled with AI generated books nowadays.

In fact, this whole "consume media only from 2010 and earlier" idea is getting more appealing by the day. I'd rather watch an anime from the 80's where each frame was drawn by a human hand and somebody spent a week encoding it to extract all the details from the original analogue source, and the subtitles were made by a person who considered each nuance carefully as if their life depended on it, rather than watch a 2025 sequel to a prequel to a reboot of an existing IP where half the assets are AI, the subtitles are AI, the script is AI, and it's just the most generic mass appealing thing ever made.

[–] PolarPirate@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 hours ago

The 80s and 90s have some of my favorite anime, movies, and tv shows anyway. I can't really think of any recent masterpeices aside from Interstellar and The Martian.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 13 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It's pretty sad, creepy and hopeless, but this is exactly how I have been feeling lately with YouTube videos. If it's made post GPT, I am not inclined to watch it unless it's a channel I know has a stated anti-AI position, because at least then I know I'm getting human input. They are building up Plato's cave around us stone by stone, we can't even move out of the way, we are getting imprisoned, and the few of us who see it happening and shout are being drowned out by the noise of the billions around us who happily hum along.

The system itself needs to come down, with violence, or we won't make it, none of us, and honestly even if it does, I am not sure we are going to survive. I feel like I'm playing the fiddle on the Titanic.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 5 points 20 hours ago

Since a lot of channels have started stating they use no AI, I have unsubscribed from quite a few that don't explicitly say so.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 5 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

If you are a USian then you probably have access to a public library.

If you go to the website of said library, usually a city.gov or countystate.gov, you can create an account.

After you create said account, you can download apps(they will tell you but normally Libby or Hoopla, Hoopla hasn't been work for me but might be a me issue.).

Use the ID from the website on the apps and you can check out books to read. You also have access to comics and audiobooks. The Invincible comic is good, you should check it out.

[–] PolarPirate@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 hours ago

My username isn't random coincidence.

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 8 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Weird that third party apps, made by corporate entities, are needed for this. They're public libraries funded with public money, it should be one unified backend with libre applications.

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