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[–] mhague@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

If AI replaces humans then why would they need to continue training them? You don't believe in the AGI hype do you? You don't think our system is about anything other than efficiently racing to the bottom, do you?

Besides, humans will always figure out a better way, a new way, a fresh take. And there's your training data.

I don't get why it says "training AI on AI content makes it dumb" when people literally use synthesized data to carefully tune models. Today. I'm sure they'll improve training by the time the internet is fully replaced.

This all assumes that it won't take a human-like AI to replace humans. Whatever replaces us will be pitiful, but it will be supported by our institutions, trillionaires, and enough personal data to create fun headlines like "Elon knows so much about you that if each datum was a grain of sand it would be bigger than Saturn!"

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The good news is that AI will eventually eat itself. The bad news is that all we need to do to make that happen is not exist anymore.

[–] Redex68@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I feel like all of this research is extremely dubious. There's basically no way to know how much of the internet is AI or not. It's indistinguishable in most cases and especially at scale.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It is a fully rational conclusion, a logical inevitability, and what we are all seeing. But I guess if you can't prove it by some ever changing subjective standard, it isn't happening.

[–] Redex68@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

I'm not saying that it isn't happening. The opposite, I personally believe it is happening on a large scale. But I feel that it's extremely hard to measure and I'm not convinced any of these numbers are correct.

[–] Deathray5@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 5 days ago

On scale using tools that detect likelihood of AI would work quite well.

For me the biggest challenge is sampling. I guess if you got all posts within a few minutes from each over and repeat that (to deal with time zone bias). I think it's possible but I'd want to look at the methodology from the primary source

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 5 days ago

Those of us who work on maintaining their critical thinking skills and book knowledge are gonna be kiiiings

[–] reddifuge@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Except they know this and the vast majority don't train ai with ai data.

Where do you guys get this stuff from?

I'm old enought to remember when people were freaking out the exact same way when the internet came out. History repeats itself I guess.

https://surrealevents.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Internet-6-1024x694.png

The march of progress stops for nobody, yall are gonna be like boomers who still can't use a computer.

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