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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Intentionally breaking laws sounds like something that should be prosecuted.

[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It will always fall on the driver of the vehicle, as it should. I don't care how self driving your car is, it has a steering wheel, an accelerator pedal, and a brake pedal and in the driver seat YOU are responsible with how you operate your vehicle. If u decide to trust a self driving feature that's YOUR mistake. I would love to blame all these crashes on Tesla but the reality is that all these drivers aids and self driving cars having accidents is proof that you should be the one in control of your own vehicle. No crying about how the automotive nannies didn't stop you from crashing the vehicle your driving, take responsibility. Don't like it? Don't trust the "self driving" nonsense (read: glorified advanced cruise control). Now one thing I don't agree with is advertising as self driving, and I strongly believe self driving vehicles in public roadways should be ILLEGAL!

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Except the problem here is Tesla is lying about a product to encourage people to use it illegally and unsafely. At some point there's extra deaths to blame solely on tesla's lies.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can you point to one of those lies? Because every time I push the FSD button it says 'keep hands on the wheel be prepared to take over at any time' right there on the screen.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Full Self Driving, the name of the feature is literally a lie. Its used all over in the marketing for the vehicle. Most car companies call comparable features "driving assistance" or "lane control" etc.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

There is a significant difference between lane control and FSD. Lane control just keeps you in the lane so you don't have to actively steer. FSD actually drives the car, changes lanes, makes turns, stops for traffic lights and stop signs, navigates intersections, etc. With the current v14, you can get in your car, type in a destination, and then not steer or push the pedals at all and the car will take you to a parking space at your destination. Lane control does not do that. I'm not aware of any other company that does that.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

Tesla has the highest accident rate per driver for a reason. FSD has routinely plowed into children, emergency vehicles etc. Theres a number of lawsuits against them around the world.

Other companies have implemented these more limited systems (that often include better sensors such as lidar) not because they can't do it but rather because they are more cautious about brazenly lying to people about the capabilities of their system.

states just need to ban teslas from public road

[–] firewyre@lemmy.world 68 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Why do we continue to allow this company to exist and break the law?

[–] Jeremyward@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago
[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

By these powers combined...

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[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Adaptive cruise control is good enough for most people and has been a proven technology for 20+ years. FSD is just downright dangerous.

[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I like my car’s version that’s just adaptive cruise control combined with using lidar maps of major roads to do lane-centering. I can go on a road trip and not touch the gas, break, or steering wheel for hours, but I have to drive it myself through residential neighborhoods.

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[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Next will be teslas without airbags. Because why not.

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[–] MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 101 points 3 days ago (11 children)

When a self driving car breaks the law, the CEO should get the demerit points on their own licence, and if they lose their licence, the cars can't drive anymore.

[–] thepompe@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 day ago

Man, holding the company financially accountable for all traffic violations would be magnificent.

It's a shame we're too stupid/weak to pull it off.

[–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 35 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That would be funny but better yet, the entire line of cars gets the feature deleted from them and customers are reimbursed the entire value of the car plus interest in exchange for having risked their lives testing an unstable and dangerous vehicle.

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[–] webdox@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He's been real quiet lately. No more talks of release the list or the America Party. Did his K plug go on vacation?

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Now trump is black bagging US citizens in broad daylight, and Musk is an immigrant who fully admitted that he originally entered the country illegally. The danger must have creeped its way through his ketamine addled brain.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 7 points 1 day ago

I can promise you he doesn’t even think about that.

He’s busy with his little Internet cult right now and I’m assuming some other malicious bullshit to fuck us with.

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[–] kureta@lemmy.ml 64 points 3 days ago

They finally did it. They automated crime 👍

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 245 points 3 days ago (1 children)

you, too, can die at the hands of AI and become forever enshrined as algorithmic data to help improve Tesla's subscription services sales to the very wealthy and hostile

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[–] mhague@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Need jammers to confuse and break Teslas. They're weapons designed to break laws and protect occupants at the expense of bystanders. Can't be mad if a bystander redirects your Tesla into a ditch.

[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

protect occupants

It doesn't even do that. You crash a tesla and start a fire, it will glady lock you in the car.

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[–] etherphon@piefed.world 138 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Since it seems to be unsafe at any speed, why not.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 48 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Because now it can hurt others going even faster

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[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Oh hell naw, I thought I bit the onion 💀

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 11 points 2 days ago

the incompetence of this guy holy.

[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 92 points 3 days ago (22 children)

Just because Elon is above the law doesn’t mean you are, even if you’re in a Tesla. Good luck.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 73 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Even if you’re just minding your business when a sleeping pilled-out middle manager from Subway corporate plows into your 98 Corolla in their Tesla at 100 mph leaving your family without a father and source of income because a billionaire nazi who's constantly off his nut on ketamine decided rules are stupid and don’t apply to him and the entire societal structure designed to prevent this from happening has been hollowed out by incompetent bigots who absolutely rate high on the sociopath scale because nazi media has ensnared 51% of the population and now you dead.

[–] other_cat@piefed.zip 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I agree with you but may I offer you a comma in these trying times?

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[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 74 points 3 days ago

which comes with higher speeds and more frequent lane changes

Go kiss a concrete pillar, ya duds

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 35 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Remember when Elon said how self driving would make roads safer?

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