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[–] Aneb@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Kinda reminds me of boot camp, using psychological attacks to break down men's will and have him disregulated and complient

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 16 hours ago

it makes sense they want robots, who wont question where and what to shoot.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

pickup artists seemed to heavily reinforce the manosphere alot prior to the likes of tate, and peterson. and Gymbros fall for it as well. especially the ones that are make jokes about people who are not going to gyms, or they eat certain foods that the gymbro doesnt like, eventhough they arnt the one eating. they always make a snide or passive aggressive comment.(its none of your business)

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (4 children)

so many comments claiming this post blames or makes fun of men and incels that i went back and reread the whole thing... what the fuck are the lot of you even responding to‽ there's nothing like that in the post, and on the contrary it says men are victimized by this. Jesus, some of you are really willing to take anything as a slight. beats self reflection i guess.

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

it doesn't blame men

Is your point that manosphere is not "men" but... Idk, a subspecies of a very aggressive and mean bear?

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

manosphere refers to the online cult created by influencers like Rogan, Tate, etc.

you're literally doing the "if you criticize Israel you're antisemitic" bullshit for manosphere and misandry instead.

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

It doesn't blame men, except those specific men and all the men who listened or fell for them

Is that your point?

(I'm going to ignore your personal attacks.)

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

please point to the personal attack in my comment

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

you’re literally doing the “if you criticize Israel you’re antisemitic” bullshit

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

calling out your bullshit is not a personal attack. a personal attack is an attack on someone's person, not their actions. i commented on your actions.

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

If that were true, you wouldn't be trying to derail that conversation but you'd got back to what exactly is your point here? Because I called your point bullshit?

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

... what? you're the one who doesn't even know what a personal insult is, let alone understand my point. i didn't bring the conversation there. you did.

my point is clear and was made already, no matter how badly you want to interpret it in a way that makes you feel persecuted. no one blamed "men" for the loneliness epidemic. they blamed the cult that preys on men. it's literally a post about men being victims to the manosphere. the fact that you take offense to what's directed at the sex criminal Tator or the grifter piece of shit Rogan personally tells more about you than me.

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

And pray tell me where did I

the fact that you take offense to what’s directed at the sex criminal Tator or the grifter piece of shit Rogan personally tells more about you than me.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

It doesn't blame men, except those specific men and all the men who listened or fell for them

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It doesn’t blame men, except those specific men and all the men who listened or fell for them

But... that's what you wrote here: manosphere refers to the online cult created by influencers like Rogan, Tate, etc.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

i think you either don't know what blame means, or what cult means

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 1 points 19 hours ago

Yeah a good few people are telling on themselves by feeling called out by this.

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[–] AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

this post brings up some good points, but I want to be clear that turning men into women hating incels who will die alone is the GOAL of all this rhetoric. it doesn't have to be that way.

if your reaction to this post is "women bad" you should take a step back and realize they've already gotten you to take the first step down the pipeline.

[–] certified_expert@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (5 children)
[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

a modern day cult and not even a classy one.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a sphere made out of naked men. It's a dangerous weapon because of its incredible sexiness.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 19 hours ago

basically toxic and hyper masculinity encapsulated into a community, a cult of sorts.

[–] treesapx@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

An insulating community of conservative influencers and their fans, focusing on giving lost males "meaning" by feeding their ego.

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[–] Zaplinaki@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

be 5' 7"

not attractive to most women (aww)

every airplane seat feels like first class

live longer on average (aww)

workout once a week and look buff

no car is too small

sleep like a king in beds of any size

women generally trust you more easily cos your presence is non-threatening

You know it's not that bad of a trade. Y'all sixfooters have fun with the girls.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I'm not quite 5'8, and I was in the Marines, where obviously size was made to be something, especially in the infantry, but I always used to just tell dudes that I'm harder to shoot, and in the unlikely event they get me before you, I'm easier to carry to safety. Fucking win-win as far as I'm concerned.

And with those days long behind me, and married with a short wife and hort kids of my own, I'm the biggest thing in the world to them. So just find an equally short person to spend your life with. Or don't, nothing matter!

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 7 points 1 day ago

I'm gay and everyone is the same height to me once you get 'em horizontal

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[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago
[–] wampus@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Eh, I agree and disagree with the image text. There are similarities, yes, but I wouldn't view it quite as closely connected as the post implies. Main reason being that there's a difference between using verbal abuse to control someone's actions -- like what it implies an abusive boyfriend would do to control his gf -- and using generally third party reference points to construct an admittedly grim world view for a broad demographic group. The manosphere approach is closer, I'd say, to the marketing done by the women's beauty industry in this regard.

Ie. there are certain trends / norms that women tend to cycle through, and certain beauty standards that people generally seem to expect from women (without digging in to that!). The beauty industry leverages that and puts out products re-enforcing those norms / helping ppl align to those norms. There are lots of people that find alternative body types attractive, and/or that have more realistic expectations. But if you're a woman who's obsessed with beauty trends, it can become an unhealthy obsession leading to potential issues like anorexia.

In that it's toxic when taken to an extreme, and in that its fundamentals are based in "reality", the beauty industry's similar to manosphere rhetoric. The manosphere's "short guys get no girls" mentality is backed by many short guys experiences with dating (especially online, where they're pre-filtered!); similarly, a fat girl with lopsided facial features will have difficulty, making the beauty industries products/message more enticing/convincing. They both leverage the generally negative real world experiences of their target audiences to 'ground' their message. Both movements also have equatable super stars -- "Supermodels"/OnlyFans girls/Twitch Streamers/Whatever who are deemed the most beautiful women, and "Tech bros" who are fathering armies of children and touting right wing eugenics-like ideals.

Mostly pointing this alternative comparison out, because I think there's a bit of grey on the manosphere stuff. An obsession with beauty standards/industry stuff is unhealthy, but in moderation its ok/beneficial; an obsession with "men's rights"/"men's issues" is unhealthy, but in moderation it's likely a good thing. More guys being more conscious about their health, and getting more exercise, isn't a bad thing after all -- and that's one of the themes in that manosphere clusterfuck.

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