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[–] grammerly_dave@lemmings.world 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The United States is more rural than Europe.

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[–] brap@lemmy.world 85 points 1 week ago (9 children)

All roads lead to… Chicago?

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 73 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Chicago has been a major transportation hub for nearly 200 years, it is the furthest inland you can reach from the sea by ship. cattle arrived from Texas ranches to Slaughterhouses on their way to the east coast. Wells Fargo was founded because American Express didn't want to operate further than Chicago, but they saw there was the opportunity of linking NY to San Francisco by Chicago

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

it is the furthest inland you can reach from the sea by ship

That's not actually true. There are several further in than Chicago. Duluth is the furthest inland sea port in the US

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

I would say that even this is untrue as the US has the largest system of navigable inland waterways in the world You could load a barge with cargo in Albany, NY and get it all the way to Omaha, NE without ever having to portage or unload the barge.

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[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why is no one concerned that europe has taken the place of mexico??? Where is mexico now??? How is this not international news?

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's an exchange program so that the Scandinavians can learn to cook Mexican food for us

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah but now Mexicans are cooking pickled herring tacos.

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[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I once decided to take the train from Denver to Chicago rather than flying. Just to see the country.

One train per day.

Just fucking one train per day.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 27 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Amtrak, and the dots in Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Illinois saw this and added just a second train between Msp And Chicago daily and ridership exploded, trains sold out. A frequent thing that they do to save money is cut trips, but it's doing so much more harm than good. They're now finally realizing that if you want ridership people want options, they want to be able to arrive close to when they want, and some may want to just show up day of and ask when the next train is.

Here in Seattle they just added a 5th or 6th roundtrip to Portland because each time they do, ridership goes up. Turns out there's a lot of people who would rather not drive.

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[–] TehBamski@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (8 children)

bUt tHe US Is a yOunGEr coUnTrY! wE haVeN't HaD mUCh TiMe tO caTcHuP.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 31 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Looks at China over the last 10 years...

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[–] Egonallanon@feddit.uk 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I always find this one funny as perhaps more than any other nation railways massively shaped how the US grew into what it is today.

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[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Yeah but what about the size difference between the two countries?

... Oh wait...

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

...the density is the flex here, not the size of the country. If you put the US rail on your map, you'd think Europeans hate trains.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Goes to show how successful the oil and automobile lobbyists. The US passenger railway network is a fucking flop. When will they finally use electric locomotive instead of the pollution belching diesel electrics.

[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] sudo@lemmy.today 21 points 1 week ago (10 children)

It also doesn't acknowledge that a lot of that is just empty space. The US is ranked 180 of 242 nations in population density.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_population_density

The US rail system has been bastardized since its inception, but this map is basically useless. The UK has 7x the population density as the US.

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 week ago (14 children)

That's a problem that is easily solved by building less trains in places with no people and more trains in places with lots of people.

To be clear, the U.S has plenty of places that could easily support rail transit, and High-speed rail. That they are not getting built is just good old political failure.

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[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I mean yes this does show passenger trains but it doesn't actually show all of the passenger trains such as the lines that run in Utah nor south well over a hundred miles carrying passengers for commuter purposes. So there's quite a few lines that are missing on here there's also lines that run up and down the East Coast I know as well and there's other passenger trains and other cities such as salt lake as well.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

Apparently the situation with freight is the opposite, where the US networks are efficient compared to Europe (and even China), hence so much stuff is trucked across Europe instead.

As always, take YT videos with grains of salt, but it makes good points:

https://youtu.be/77pIj8kURoY


Meanwhile, other videos suggest that the US's own passenger rail suppliers (like manufacturers/designers) are basically gone because the situation is so bad, hence companies like Amtrak end up importing EU stuff.

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[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Germany used to have more 30 years ago. Scheiß Kohl und Schröder

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[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And as a Canadian, I'm even envious of the trains in the US. Pretty much the only thing but here we are.

Anecdote time: I was visiting Europe, sitting in Liège and arrived there from Aachen with a train ticket I bought the day before. My next step was Brussels or Ghent but I wasn't decided yet and didn't have a ticket, so I just bought one on the spot for the next train, in an hour. While eating fast food and waiting for that train, I was trying to book a train in Canada next week when I'd return, to go from Montréal to Drummondville. However I was already too late. There was still available tickets but there were over $100 CAD for a trip that would normally cost about $32 CAD if I would have booked it a month in advance. And the next departure was 3 hours later, still overpriced. So, no train in Canada for me, even a week in advance.

In short, in Canada, there's only 5 trains a day between major cities, and you have to book weeks in advance otherwise the prices can triple if you're last minute. And they don't take bikes. And they weigh your bagage.

So I was in Europe, taking trains last minute here and there, while unable to book a train ticket at a reasonable price for the next week in Canada. VIA Rail sucks so much.

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