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And why you don't follow America's lead and elect conservatives into office with their terrible ideas and terrible followers.

ETA: Sorry that we infected your political discourse btw. No one deserves a Musk moron talking to their people.

Yeah not just the UK.

I have to say as an outsider coming in, I can only compare the NHS to the Canadian system. They are very similar from the user interaction perspective, I'm aware under the hood the way things are run is a lot different.

Both my kids were born on the NHS and my experience with it was largely positive. None of that is to say it's perfect or I don't see the clear direction from the Tories (and labour honestly, FFS) to defund, break, and sell off the NHS.

Just remember it's easy to complain.

The Canadian system imo is in perhaps a worse state with better funding and better labour availability. Our system is not anywhere near as modernized and we'll run as the NHS from a digital systems side and even just like hospital and clinic admin (again this is all just personal anecdotes from one guy who's lived a lot of time in both systems, please take all of this with a deer bait sized salt lick)

All private-public systems go this route. I hear France is at risk like Spain and Brazil, and I am convinced it's bad by how hard Premier Smith of Alberta really pushes it.

I was going to ask what universal actually means.

You're right that free GP appointments don't really exist anymore. However, anyone can roll up to emergency and be treated for free.

You could say the same thing about Australia really. 2% of your income unless you're very poor or very wealthy.

Isn't that the same thing by another name? I pay mandatory taxes to support national healthcare

It was only enacted by Bismarck because they banned the whole SPD for a few years and didn't want their heads chopped off.

It was already a compromise at the time not only the reason of it's implementation, but also execution

That did look weird so I decided to dig into it a bit. Unless I'm missing some vital information it seems like they don't have universal healthcare on a technicality. Universal Healthcare is based on residency but Estonian healthcare is based on contribution. I'm probably grossly simplifying the system but the short gist is, if you work and pay the social tax you're covered by healthcare. The only ones not covered by healthcare are unemployed people who haven't officially registered themselves as unemployed, people who work illegally and people who work but just refuse to pay social tax. In every other aspect it seems to function like universal healthcare.

Seems exactly like the kind of system that would give Americans a hard-on due to "illegal aliens working illegally" not being covered by healthcare. But I guess that would be way too functional for working-class Americans so of course that can't be done.

Never was

At this point, I think a better term for both the US and Canada would be 'post-industrialized', rather than 'highly developed'. Honestly, we are both sliding backwards in terms of human development.

American here.

A significant percentage of us can barely read. Understanding even one form of UHC is asking too much from such simpletons.

And that socialised heatlhcare exists alongside private options. Countries with universal healthcare has more options and freedom of choice than countries with only privatised healthcare.

There's 18 pixels of NZ, highlighted in red for having UHC

But New Zealand was entirely made up by Peter Jackson for the LOTR series! They call themselves Kiwis for Pete's sake and you expect me to believe this island off the coast of Australia is real? Sounds no more real to me than the Island of Sodor, or the Isle of Man!

!mapswithoutnz@lemmy.nz is a better way to link, so that people can just click the link and be taken to the comm on their own instance.

"Third world" refers to countries not aligning themselves with either NATO or the Warsaw Pact during the cold war, not WW2.

High middle and low income.

Yep.

We're ashamed to admit it's the same system Canada uses; just with more investment.

Edit: oh, and also Cuba! But Cuba is doing far better than expected given its poverty level, because Cubans are super-human.

Whenever people say Americans don't have a tax payer funded universal healthcare, that's BS.

American taxes go to Israels universal healthcare.

they really enjoy it

Lol, we got American Politician Andrew Cuomo is busy running for Mayor of Tel Aviv

No, it is not Darwinism, for in his The Dsecent of Man from the 1870s Darwin extended natural selection to include emotions; it is the individuals who are to reproduce that transmit their genes to the next generation. And the process of dating does not proceed by rape. Then there is a debate concerning "group selection", and whether there is a selective mechanism at that level. Then it shifts a little back and forth, with inheritance of acquired characteristics (Lamarckism) making an occasional comeback until the modern synthesis between Darwin and Mendel in the 1930. But these days, horizontal gene transfer and several other mechanisms continue to blur the image a little. And Gould's old calculations that made directed evolution improbable have also been challenged in computer models, and where they have landed, I do not actually know, since it has been some years since I even thought about this subject. What you are talking about is probably Herbert Spencer, who by some weird coincidence (or perhaps it was intended?), is buried next to his ideological opposite, Karl Marx, in a London cemetery. It is from Spencer that many such things have emerged. His influence upon the robber barons and the shaping of the American right was considerable.