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    [–] savvywolf@pawb.social 2 points 21 hours ago

    This is why you use Arch/Nix because the package is likely in their repos.

    The software probably still won't work, but you can waste more time on it.

    [–] ian@feddit.uk 6 points 1 day ago

    As a non IT person I find Linux way better for installing software. The sort of apps non IT people use. The Software store has most of what I need. There rest I install the Windows way. From a website. Apps with a Linux version almost always detect and offer a Linux button to click to install. I wouldn't know what to do if that didn't work. Ditch that application I guess. My distros are pretty standard. Not hacked about. My apps are not too weird. I've been doing it this way for 14+ years. Never needed the CLI either.

    [–] nroth@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

    No, then you fix the code to work with your current system libraries and upstream the patch and version bump. This happens less on Arch, BTW ;-)

    [–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Glad im not the only one. Thats one thing that makes me go man, people will never leave windows for this, this is insanely complex to juat install a program.

    I find it fun to learn tho

    [–] reddifuge@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    Windows; have to search online for correct website, sift through ads to find the download, install while avoiding malware or extra programs that try to install alongside.

    Linux; Sudo pacman -S firefox. Done

    [–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    This is true for some but it doesn't work like that in reality. Its much easier to install on windows vs linux, thats just how it is.

    Don't even get started on flatpak vs .Deb vs compiling vs snap...explaining that to a windows user makes them about lose their mind.

    Windows wins here. Click exe. Install. Done. AND the benefit of being allowed to install to a different hard drive, which linux will not allow without a ton of hoop jumping.

    Linux is great but let's not pretend windows doesn't do certain things much better.

    Also, not being able to see all your installed programs in one place because they are a blend of .Deb, snap, flatpaks, and compiled. It becomes a mess very quick if youre not careful.

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    [–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

    Things have gotten so, so much better over the last 5 or 6 years.

    Flatpak, appimage, docker are just brilliant.

    I recently discovered nix and am in that honeymoon phase of trying to hit every nail with that hammer.

    [–] ragas@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    No System Package

    Build System Package

    Gentoo makes it soo easy.

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    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 77 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

    Gimme the repo and I'll get it to compile on Arch, latest testing packages as per 2025-10-20T22:12:00 on repo.30p87.de/archlinux

    [–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 101 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    What colors are your thigh highs?

    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 83 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Black-white, preferably pink-white. I overcompensate a lot for boymoding.

    [–] Laser@feddit.org 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    It's too funny to me that Arch of all distributions attracts the thigh /Unix socks crowd (for lack of better word). Nothing about Arch stands out for me in that regard, there's no social statement or anything, and when I was more active in the community, it wasn't known for that.

    I was deep enough into Arch to run my own private repository using aurutils, but no thighs :(

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    [–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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    [–] x4740N@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    Different packages having conflicting dependency versions needed for installation

    Edit: distrobox may be a viable solution to this

    [–] JamBandFan1996@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago

    God bless flatpak for these cases

    [–] 1984@lemmy.today 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    You didnt waste those hours, you learned something.

    [–] Deebster@infosec.pub 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

    Nothing that useful, apart from learning again that reading error messages properly can save you much pain.

    [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

    That’s a useful lesson to have stick

    [–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 55 points 3 days ago (15 children)

    Both of these two cases are why Flatpaks are so attractive.

    [–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 31 points 3 days ago

    Flatpaks are better than Snaps, but properly maintained dependency trees and SBOMs are best, by a wide margin.

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    [–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    I honestly can't remember the last time I've come across a package that I needed that so obscure that it wasn't found somewhere as at the very least an appimage, if not a flatpak. I haven't had to build from source in I don't even know how many years now.

    [–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

    General use package? Sure Specialized package to do something specific in a specific field? Good luck.

    I still have flashbacks of installing a c++ library which had to be transpired (or whatever the term is) to c# for another library to work, and having to go manually fix several function and type declarations manually to make it work. And we are talking about the golden standard library in the field...

    [–] Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Try making music on Linux. You'll be compiling obscure shit and tweaking configs all the time.

    [–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

    True. But I was coming at if from the perspective of an every day user coming from Windows. email, word processing, internet, etc... Even gaming and photo editing.

    The more professional the needed software gets, of course the more obscure it gets.

    What? Its something I do quite regularly.

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    [–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

    I at times have to install completely undocumented software. I love ccmake as it lists all available options. I guess there are other ways, but that makes it so easy.

    Then it's just a couple of days figuring out all necessary libraries.

    [–] Meowie_Gamer@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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    [–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    When the dependencies need dependencies and then those dependencies need dependencies, the rabbit hole is endless!

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    [–] hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

    no system package

    install distro that has it on a chroot

    [–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Yeah sure, I gonna setup everything again just because a single piece of software is not available on my pc

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    [–] palordrolap@fedia.io 23 points 3 days ago

    Last week was the first time I think I've ever got a random Internet tarball to configure, make and make install. Program even did what it was supposed to too. I was amazed.

    [–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

    damn. that's literally me.

    [–] RmDebArc_5@piefed.zip 21 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    If it’s in the AUR you can use a arch distrobox container

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    [–] bstix 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    The last picture in the meme always bothered me, because the sequence doesn't make any sense physically. (Popping the rake from mid air and doing the wrong flip and such)

    So, I went on to find the sequence that I believe it was drawn from.

    [–] nialv7@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    you think the sequence doesn't make physical sense, but skateboarding on a rake is fine?

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    On Nixos

    No nixpkg Make flake

    [–] angband@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    pfft. ln -s new_library.4.4.7 old_library.4.2.8

    all done!

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