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They have always wanted to replace all their workers with robots.
It’s why nobody should have capitulated and gave them tax cuts for warehouses and fulfillment centers.
This would be a good thing in the timeline where governments actually gave a shit and we had universal basic income for everyone. No human should have to slave away for 8+ hours a day just to survive when most work can be automated.
UBI will only come after workers are automated away, not before. We almost never had progress for progress' sake, only out of necessity.
Amazon has been such a terrible employer for so long that they're almost forced to do this, any other concerns aside.
They've burned and churned such a large percentage of the American population that would ever potentially work for them, that they are legitimately going to run out of people to hire. Automation is going to be their only possible way of getting their grunt work done.
Let me get this straight:
Where is the logic?
Exactly. Automation will be replacing jobs. It's an economic fact. Instead of fighting it, we need to be focusing on making an automated future equitable for as many people as possible
Yes! And the only thing in our way is fucking capitalism!
A world, where no living being has to do work in such bad conditions, as machines can do those jobs is possible. Unconditional basic income. Unconditional basic income!
Correct taxation of billionaires and corporations + UBI + Universal Health Care
Nationalize Amazon.
And when you see an Amazon box on your doorstep today, know you directly paid for this.
As they actively destroy any chance of progress in computing? Probably even degressing it by supporting the AI bubble? Good luck with having robots that can't do more than 5% of the basics of what an average human can do :)
Sure it'll be able to do it very "efficiently", but that efficiency is extremely relative at best, and sacrifices way more in the background making it less efficient overall.
Too bad the people running these companies can't see beyond their next quarterly numbers to know this, or know how business, technology, the economy, or how humans work.
It only needs to do 5% of what a human can do. They’re basically talking about automating low wage warehouse people
While I realize these are decent sources of jobs in some economically depressed areas, it can’t be a very satisfying jobs and certainly the rest of us not directly affected should have no objection. While I have empathy toward those losing jobs, let’s lose them
I totally agree! I think progress is the way to go, aside from death. And soul killing jobs have to die out with progress.
But the problem is i don't think the current technological level of automation is even close enough to replace a significant enough portion of these jobs.
Because if they can, we won't have basically all the rich assholes pay a sum in the billions in lobbying to make sure workers are always available to them on the cheap, with the least amount of protection against exploitation. They wouldn't try to so hard to put down strikes, higher wages, unions, less working hours, job security, etc. They wouldn't care as much because a machine would be way cheaper and never complains.
Our technology has to progress and imporve way more to make it possible. Progress that's based on research, trial and error, investments, talent and raising talent and skill, and all kinds of things that cut down on immediate profits. Basically the antithesis to the current economical model that all those fucks are horny for.
To me this is the same as if in the middle ages a king was like "just kill all the peasants and make the wizards summon fully obedient servants to do the necessary work". While their wizards are still trying to figure out how to take a rabbit out of a hat.