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[–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 hour ago

My dacia spring has it exactly like that 😁

You feel how you physically move the airways by rotating the wheel where you choose the air coming out

[–] blady_blah@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

Fuck that, give me a thermostat any day of the week.

[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This works well and it's not a hill I'll defend but automatic control of temperature is better when it's done well. In the UK we have a culture of driving cars with manual transmission and I've never understood it when automatic transmissions exist and are pretty good. People wanna feel like they are in control of stuff.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Not sure about the UK, but I know Germany likes manuals because they last longer when you have a lot of hills and mountains.

[–] kossa@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, as a kid I thought by the time I'll do my driver's license there will be no more manual transmissions around.

Turns out, automatic is just still way more expensive to buy AND, as I recently learned, crazy expensive in maintenance.

[–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 hour ago

I like electric, because fuel and maintenance is so cheap

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[–] swagmoney@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

how hard do you want it? how hot do you want it? where do you want it?

[–] nek0d3r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 day ago

Por que no los dos?

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

That has 5 moving parts, while a touchscreen has none. It's much easier and cheaper for the manufacturer to install the touchscreen. But instead of passing the savings to you, they probably keep it or pass it on to investors.

[–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The nobs are cheaper, because you don’t need a motor changing the airflow, you just use the power of the human rotating the nob to adjust the airflow to go to the right spot

And you don’t need a cpu nor gpu

Waaay cheaper…

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 minutes ago

The CPU and screen are already in the car for other things. No cost there. And I don't think you actually know how to make a nob.

[–] Madeyro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But the touch screen comes with a price you pay for the UI development which is not a small amount. So while installing it might be cheaper, in the end I would argue it's more expensive.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

The screen could well be more expensive than the dial parts, but installation would be cheaper, so we'd need the numbers. The thing about software is that it's very expensive to make but selling price is as low or high as you need it to be.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Exactly.

Each of those knobs needs an injection mould, each switch behind it a supply chain. Iterating on digital design is far cheaper as well.

It's far cheaper to use what are effectively 10 year old tablets in the cheaper cars. Since LCDs are being mass manufactured for other things that likely get a nice economy of scale.

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Be nice if those savings were passed on....

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[–] percent@infosec.pub 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I almost agree with this, but I prefer just one more advancement over this: the thermostat kind. I like to just set the temperature so I don't have to keep adjusting it.

Nothing fancy, no touchscreen bs, just simple knobs. I was perfectly happy with the thermostat feature in my old 1997 Pontiac Grand Prix GT.

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[–] passepartout@feddit.org 189 points 2 days ago (13 children)

The next thing will be: I can't toggle my AC because AWS is down.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago

your seats overheat and get stuck in the most forward position

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're lucky if it lets you start the car.

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 121 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Everything after THIS was a mistake.

1985 Nissan 300ZX

Oh, that was my first car. Sometimes, the display changed to something weird though, like this:

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[–] Ordinary_Person@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I've got an old car and it's still like this. I don't look forward to the day I have to get a new car.

[–] Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah like, all I wish my car had was Bluetooth capabilities but besides that I love my older car.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Swap the radio its pretty easy and only costs like $50. I got an old Japanese import that has Bluetooth that connects to my phone as I enter the car. Its also got USB to play music from and charge from.

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[–] eve@evecodes.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

But I don’t think seat warmers came with cars with these controls?

[–] cryptix@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sorry internet, I love the auto climate.

My dial has auto on it

[–] warm@kbin.earth 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This should be mandatory by law. Touch screens should not exist in cars for drivers.

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[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

I disagree. I like that I can set my temperature to an exact number and the car will automatically adjust to that temp. We should have stopped there. No need for touch screens. That’s was the holy grail of temperature control.

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[–] TheMinions@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I’d argue split climate for the driver and passenger seat is the only important missing innovation.

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Only missing a night picture with the red LED backlight on

Yes the temp sensor is a worthy addition to the formula. Imagine fiddling with your 80s/90s A/C running on ye olde R-12 to get the temperature right lol.

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[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Hard disagree with this. Climate control has become a must for me since the early 2000s. Set and forget is always better than fiddling with things. And now my current car has three levels of automatic so it doesn't go full blast at the beginning, it's amazing.

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[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Yours is a decade or two past the true ideal. Not pictured: the 5-inch sliding control that mechanically adjusted between recirculated and exterior air and the drivers and passengers pull-knob by the feet that let exterior air flow in directly. A heavenly touring experience.

Also on the one pictured in your post, I find those lit press to toggle ac and def buttons with indicator lights wore out over time and required a ton of force to switch on the cars I've had with them.

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