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[–] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 hours ago

So correct me if I'm wrong but this is just them openly admitting to bombing boats they have no confirmed ID on? Isn't that a problem for THEIR (the deceased's) government? "Foreign government is performing extra judicial killings on my citizens"?

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, no shit Sherlock. There are more illegal drugs on a billionaire's yacht than a 25 foot Boston Whaler.

[–] PearOfJudes@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago

More illegal drugs in the white house than on these boats.

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Not long until the boats start shooting back

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 hours ago

that's what they want.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 16 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Other countries should just start bombing american yatchs and private jets. They're much more likely to contain drugs.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

How long has this gone on?

[–] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Your entire life or more. The blurriness of facial identification on drone bombers has always been a feature, especially when multiplied by "network analysis", the academic field of guilt by association. Before that, there was the Phoenix Program. Before that, entire cities were razed. Not to imply any of it stopped.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 39 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

The lawmaker pointed to the Pentagon's admission to explain why the Trump administration "could not actually hold or try the individuals that survived one of the attacks is because they could not satisfy the evidentiary burden."

Call me old fashioned, but I'm of the opinion that if you don't have the evidence to try someone, you definitely don't have the evidence to execute them.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 37 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

It's a war crime to execute suspected drug smugglers, or even to execute instead of trial someone found in possession of a large amount of drugs. There is no possible identification of anyone on board or even boat owner from high altitude.

Furthermore, many of the strikes are on speedboats that are going fast enough to plane over the water. It is impossible for any boat to go that fast with enough fuel to get to Florida, and the open cockpit boats themselves look obviously empty. This is simply, provably, pure terrorist evil.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

So where does just possibly probably bombing innocent civilian vessels fall there?

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

pedantics here, wouldn't that be a crime against humanity, rather than a war crime, since we're not at war?

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 17 points 15 hours ago

So, we're just indiscriminately bombing fishing trawlers, got it.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Even if they were 100% certain of who they were, murdering people over drugs is fucking insane. If they're in your territory and you want to arrest them and put them through the justice system, okay, but just straight up killing them is evil.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 1 points 38 minutes ago

Torpedoing the prop blades or disabling the engine to interdict and board is something the Coasties practice regularly for drug missions, we know how to shoot to disable and to kill. Blowing up the whole boat is straight up murder

[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 50 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Giving random people the death penalty, for maybe or maybe not committing a crime that even if it turns out they were, doesn't even qualify for the death penalty in either the country they are from or the country that is killing them... is so far beyond crazy... it shouldn't have been able to happen once, let alone keep happening.

And if that wasn't crazy enough, people that survive the strikes, can't be legally brought in because the burden of proof isn't met to even question them... but killing them is happening?

[–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago

Wow those Epstein files must really be something. The homies are ready to WWIII us to distract from the coverup.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 119 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah. That's just called "murder", then.

[–] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 44 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It's murder either way. Even if they were drug smugglers, that is not something worth killing.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 15 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Even if they were worth killing it'd still be murder

[–] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 4 points 16 hours ago

Yes, what I meant is more that in case of an imminent terrorist attack, I would deem it okay to kill somebody if it saves the life's of other people and no other less lethal method was sure to stop the attack.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 64 points 1 day ago

It's murder and terrorism even if they were positively identifying drug traffickers.

[–] radiofreebc@lemmy.world 66 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So, they're terrorists...right?

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That depends. Is this still the definition of the word?

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 3 points 14 hours ago

conservapedia page: “this page has been edited 84 times in the past year”

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 23 hours ago

Those people are civilians of other countries... Either they are as individuals terrorists or US is at war with Venezuela. Take your pick.

[–] muffedtrims@lemmy.world 17 points 23 hours ago

Not sure which "they're" you're referring to, but of them already claimed they are.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 day ago

That is called terrorism.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

How long before the cartels start kidnapping US citizens and forcing them under duress onto fast boats?

How long til the US Govt starts blowing them away anyway?

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Killing US citizens has never been a big deal for the US govt.

[–] Jumbie@lemmy.zip 5 points 17 hours ago

Especially lately.

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

how long until cartels

Dunno. Don't think they're using these boats. The whole point of smuggling is that it's covert, you know?

how long until the us government

Exactly as long as it takes them to ejaculate at the thought. Maybe twelve seconds?

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 7 points 22 hours ago

The reports say most smuggling is through containerships and air travel. Attacking the little boats is mostly bullying where violence is the point.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

so … the same accuracy as our “precision drone strikes” then …

[–] limer@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago

I think the glorification of the brutality is better than the indifferent platitudes, it’s almost more humanizing

[–] wurzelgummidge@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Mileikowsky says it's okay to do that