I'd contend that it often also benefits the people being attacked by the war, unless you think it would have been reasonable to let the Nazis roll across all of Europe unopposed

[–] downpunxx@kbin.social -5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

this. this. a thousand times this. also applies to arab muslim terrorists who seek to rape, behead, burn and slaughter jews at will, but the "nazis are bad, "palestinian" hamas are poor poor cinnamon rolls that need to be allowed to hide under hospitals" haven't quite made the connection yet

[–] Ooops@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That's because there is no connection.

Being against Israel's indiscriminate killing of civilians doesn't make Hamas terrorists the good guys. They are still despicable terrorists. It simply acknowledges that you don't remove a terrorist group by a military operation unless you plan to kill the whole population. Which -given comments from Israel officials- they know very will and proceed none-the-less.

You would really think people finally got that after the last "we are are fighting terrorists"-shitshow of more than two decades and its impressive results.

[+] cloud@lazysoci.al -6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can fight evil without imitating nazi and building a more destructive society than what they did. Just look around yourself, you don't need a military industry complex to defend yourself, governments spend trillions on wars because it benefits their authority and to attack other nations, not to defend themself. Look at 400$ drones defeating million dollars tanks. Ukraine government too demands for more weapons because they want to attack back, not because it benefits the people who's land is now reduced to waste.

[–] TadeuszBonawentura@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Ukraine is occupied. They want their people and their territories been freed. How insane should be to call right to defend and liberation an attack!?

[–] BigTwerp@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago

Don’t feed the troll

[–] downpunxx@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

You don't say ~ Jews

[–] cloud@lazysoci.al -2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

They want their people and their territories been freed.

The people of Ukraine are enslaved to their own fascist government to begin with which doesn't allow any male between 18 and 60 to leave the country. The fights over rubble and operations in crimea are not poor people defending themself, it's the ukrainian government playing war on their own. People can and will defend themself without a corrupted government. Warlords and politicians profits out such situation to increase their wealth and authority

[–] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

You Russian sock puppet accounts are all so predictable.

[–] Rinox@feddit.it 2 points 2 years ago

Wow, this is like Hitler calling Stalin a fascist.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People can and will defend themself without a corrupted government

Even among the other bullshit you just said, this statement is straight up hilarious. There is literally no evidence of this, historical or current. Stop keeping the good drugs to yourself .

[–] cloud@lazysoci.al 0 points 2 years ago

learn history