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[–] Destraight@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago

Hell yeah, a baby free life is very liberating

[–] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

I mean I prefer my kid shits in a nappy than on the floor so I wouldn’t call it stupid.

Also breastmilk

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Me, asking my stupid stuff to take care of me and manage my estate when I have early Alzheimers from a lifetime of microplastic exposure:

[–] Fosheze@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you're having kids just to hand them the obligation of taking care of you then maybe you shouldn't be having kids.

[–] Kanda@reddthat.com 5 points 2 years ago

That's how most kids are made. This PSA was brought to you by: the third world.

Estate? Look at mister fancy pants over here

[–] at_an_angle@lemmy.one 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

WTF is that expression?

WTF is he doing with his hands?

[–] Mercury@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] at_an_angle@lemmy.one 7 points 2 years ago

Ice In My Veins Pose, also known as the TikTok Arm Thing

Yup. I'm too old for this shit.

[–] JohnWorks@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

SSSSSSSHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHH

[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

man these dumb ass antinatalism memes should have stayed at Reddit and I don't even have or want kids.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Childfree all day, every day.

[–] pigup@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I have child, it's a life decision ( we decided to do it and willingly gave up past freedoms). It's ok we signed up for this, please don't do it if you don't want to, world will be a much better place if only willing people become parent eh?

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago

Breeders BTFO

[–] Norgur@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's a really good question right there: While children are expensive as fuck, they do prevent loneliness and wild shopping sprees because they keep you from going online for long enough. So: Are children actually saving you money in the long run because they stop the root for buying stupid shit and keep you busy enough so that you ain't even thinking about getting said stupid shit?

[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Given that raising a child is, from a sourceless quick google, about $20-30k a year, they better not be. As for loneliness, a cat’s about $650 a year, and makes a similar level of intelligent conversation for the first ten years or so.

[–] blady_blah@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

IMO, children in their early life are mainly expensive in opportunity costs, assuming you have a full time parent taking care of the child. Diapers are food are relatively cheap but taking a parent out of the work force or the alternate, providing day care, is very expensive.

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What the? Where I live, a kid costs between 350 and 700 per month, 250€ monthly tax reduction/month/child by the government not factored in

[–] illumrial@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh I'm so jealous. I've got two kids in the United States and it cost almost $3k per month in daycare alone. We're not taking them to an incredibly fancy daycare either!

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear... Those are the things people need to be reminded of when they brag about the oh so high average wages in the US. Daycare here is 400/Month max. I mean, you can go more expensive of course for some fancy rich-kid-establishment of course.

[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

sourceless quick google

It could be including childcare, increased housing costs for larger housing, any myriad of things.

https://smartasset.com/financial-advisor/cost-raise-child-2023#:~:text=The%20ongoing%20costs%20of%20child,the%20U.S.%20is%20%2420%2C813%20annually.

This was the article at the top of google. Looks like yeah childcare + housing are the majority of the costs.

[–] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Admittedly, I don't have a cat, but I would have thought they're more expensive than that. My parents had / have cats. A vet bill is like $150 a pop.

I think I'd want one of those self-cleaning litter boxes as well (if I had a cat). Those start around $600, right?

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well vets visits shouldn't be much more frequent than once a year, and believe it or not, $600 litter boxes are optional. Also, whatever litterbox you buy should last more than a year.

[–] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

All fair points, but 2 unexpected vet bills in one year has a high stress tax as well.

[–] bleistift2@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

a similar level of intelligent conversation for the first ten years or so.

At first I thought that was hyperbole. Then I remembered my friend’s 8yo…

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As for loneliness, a cat’s about $650 a year,

Vet costs not included.

[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sure, and the child could have an extremely expensive form of ass cancer. Unless you mean routine costs, which were covered by the article I yanked that number from without reading

https://www.aspcapetinsurance.com/resources/cat-ownership-cost/#:~:text=How%20Much%20Does%20a%20Cat,to%20around%20%2453%20a%20month.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Fair, for me that would be covered by healthcare insurance, while pet insurance is a massive scam.

I realize things are probably different in the US.