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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't care who you support, this would be a bad and biased source

[–] Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 years ago

It's also the only source that publishes. Oryx documentation indicates direct photographic evidence for 50% of the numbers listed here and when you consider that most Russian losses are in areas not easily photographed by civilians this is a strong indicator these reports have some basis in reality. That said, I agree these numbers should absolutely be taken with a grain of salt.

[–] fiah@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

the source (UA general staff) is obviously biased, yes, but we don't know how good or bad it is yet

here's the original source (yes it's facebook): https://www.facebook.com/GeneralStaff.ua/posts/pfbid029Hp57mafK62hrb2gQMqQfL8inL45TErQCHSSQWgsBBGvLQZGW7u275LDutt7QZpJl

[–] derpo@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I’m deleting this comment, what I thought was just an observation seemed to upset instead.

[–] bentruck@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah way more Iraqi civilians died.

[–] derpo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That’s a great point. War is so stupid. I bet the collateral numbers from this war will also be depressing

[–] bentruck@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Yep, and as long as war is profitable for the US it will always be something the US is looking to engage in.

[–] tooting_lemmy@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Think about WWII numbers. About 1,100,000 Soviets died in the Battle of Stalingrad alone.

[–] ChrislyBear@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Bad diagram: The comparison period is missing. Is it +- vs yesterday, vs last month, vs last year? Nobody knows and thats why the deltas are meaningless.

[–] Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 years ago

It's a daily report with totals for all the way up to the start of Russia's attempt at Kyiv in February of last year. The deltas are simply the change from yesterday's report, and so on...

[–] rockyTron@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

These have been daily deltas for a long time, this chart comes out every day.

[–] torturedllama@lemmy.nz 1 points 2 years ago

I believe the delta is 1 day. The Ukrainian defense ministry has been posting some variation of these infographics on Facebook each day since the war started.

[–] fiah@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

this is a daily report. Yes it's not great that it doesn't say so on the graphic itself but it's a graphic that is originally posted in an article that provides the right context

edit: the UA general staff apparently post it on Facebook of all places: https://www.facebook.com/GeneralStaff.ua/posts/pfbid029Hp57mafK62hrb2gQMqQfL8inL45TErQCHSSQWgsBBGvLQZGW7u275LDutt7QZpJl

[–] Stereocloud@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

The diagram is roughly, all Russian losses since the start of invasion

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

32 arty, that's pretty good.

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_BOOBIES@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Do the missil losses count the ones that were fired and used as intended, or only the ones that were destroyed before being used?

[–] Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

I believe the missile losses count as ones that were successfully intercepted.

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