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[–] Chippyr@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Mastodon is just so empty as a platform. I hope for its success but I am not seeing it at this point the way we are with Lemmy.

[–] matt@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is a strange take - Mastodon makes up ~80% of the Fediverse, whereas Lemmy makes up like 3% or something.

Mastodon is the entire reason the Fediverse as a whole ended up taking off - for most people, it is the only thing they are aware of.

[–] Sproux@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

According to fediverse observer Lemmy hit 2.2 million users to mastodons 8 million, so it's up to like 17% now!

[–] matt@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Not accurate unfortunately as the vast majority are bots. It's more along the lines of 300k to 500k currently.

[–] animist@lemmy.one -1 points 2 years ago

I think the reality is just that microblogging is always going to be devoid of content when compared to a messageboard system like lemmy or reddit

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I Iiterally cannot keep up with my feed. You have to build a network there. It is not spoonfed to you.

[–] 0xD@infosec.pub -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Which it should be if you want it to.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nah, man. I get things and people I like spoonfed now by active boosters. The more you interact and add to your network the better it gets.

[–] 0xD@infosec.pub -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I really don't get how people don't understand that for mass adoption you need as little fucking friction as possible, lol. What you are doing is just gatekeeping. My experience with Mastodon:

The home feed is completely empty at first. I can go to some recommendations which are (I think) based on my home instance. I have no idea what those people even talk about so I just follow them to be able to check the platform out at all.

Looking at the "Trending Topics" (or whatever) tab shows stupid hashtags like #silentsunday or #photomonday. I don't really care about those and they don't even matter for my home instance infosec.exchange. So how do I even find any topics I really care about? It's so much work.

I'm very technically inclined and I went in with an open mind and am now following quite a few people and have even found properly nice profiles like bellingcat. But that was way too much friction - there should be less, and I'm not talking for me.

Anyway, I never really used or liked Twitter and Mastodon seems the same. There's just too many uninformed opinions and people fishing for likes. I don't care about that, I want proper discussions even if I, IMO completely undeservedly, get downvoted ;) I like Lemmy way more for that.

[–] Beardedsausag3@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've reinstalled it to take a shniff and I'm impressed so far, very clean and functional.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You don't need to use the official Mastodon apps, they're not the best way to use Mastodon. The official apps only arrived last year, and they were intended as "Fisher Price My First Mastodon" things with a restricted set of features.

Third party apps have been around longer than official ones, and include way more features. You can sign in with the same account on all apps.

:android: On Android try Tusky, Fedilab, Megalodon, Tooot

:apple_inc: On iPhone/iPad, try Toot!, Ice Cubes, Ivory, Mona

As per Feditips: https://mstdn.social/@feditips/110644814293019308

[–] freemachine@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is it possible to view Matsodon from Lemmy platforms?

[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

In my cursory research, it seems to be possible to view mastodon through Kbin. And possible to view Lemmy through Mastodon.

Lemmy doesn't have support for following user accounts, only communities.

All the platforms use the same backend. So there's no reason full mastodon interoperability couldn't be added to Lemmy in the future.

[–] sneezy@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The mastodon app on f-droid is marked as "promotes anti-features" with a description "This app promotes or depends entirely on a non-free network service" and I wonder why that would be, since there's also Tusky, Fedilab, Husky, and some others, none of which have a warning like that.

[–] BrikoX@vlemmy.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] sneezy@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Aaaah, that makes sense.

[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Aside from Mastodon.Social are there any other decent instances? I'm considering joining one; I liked Twitter before Elon bought it and miss it.

Of course Im staying on Lemmy as well. :)

[–] 666happyfuntime@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm waiting on my blue sky invite

[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

To be honest I'm not seeing the appeal of a centralized Twitter clone.

[–] a_spooky_specter@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I tried it. It was awful.

[–] allforthebest@infosec.pub 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hate Material U design. It is really like the Superflat design for 2020s with rounded corners and it looks really tedious.

[–] people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 2 years ago

Word.

Btw is there another Android app for Lemmy other than Jerboa? It feels like one of the biggest victim of the Material You template's drawbacks.