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I'm not trying to convince anyone to go back i promise, quite the contrary actually cause I think spez plans to just decrease the cost of the API and act like it was a bargain deal sacrifice while not solving any of the issues at all

But, when I think about it even if spez did actually listen and reverse all changes I don't think i want to go back to Reddit cause from what Ive seen Lemmy is just friendlier and less :Be Corporate Friendly: I would honestly love it if Lemmy did a project like r/place one of these days so we could see what the internet is actually like instead of what happened in 2022 (I really did enjoy what a bunch of communities did but when the mods started abusing their powers to make it corporate r/place lost so much meaning) but i am curious since i'm not going back is there anything Reddit can do to make you go back to Reddit?

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[–] Klinkertinlegs@beehaw.org 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reverse the api changes, convince Selig to keep Apollo going, fire spez. Than MAYBE.

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[–] garpunkal@beehaw.org 9 points 2 years ago

I think that the CEO would need to step down at this point. This has been handled completely inappropriately and he's ultimately responsible. Then they would need to rollback the API changes and approach that change in a more structure community lead approach.

[–] pain_is_life_is_pain@beehaw.org 9 points 2 years ago

Get rid off all the trolls, bots and shills. I know that's nearly an impossible task, but I'm tired of seeing the same thing posted five times a month, good content getting hidden and people arguing for the sake of arguing.

[–] Kichae@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

I've been wanting a return to a distributed social web for over a decade now. Now that it looks truly viable, why would I want to go back?

[–] rusticus@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I left Digg because of an INTERFACE CHANGE. Reddit is fucking over its devs and users.

Answer: There is nothing reddit can do to get me back. I didn't really like them when Digg went south and now it's dead to me.

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[–] sydneybrokeit@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago

Start with canning Spez. Dude's been a walking liability for them for at least the 12 years I've been on reddit, and everyone knew it back then.

[–] sekhethsis@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

I am the founder of a mental health support subreddit, so I kinda permanently tied to Reddit to continue to provide support there. I did however make the same community on Lemmy. World, so shall see what the future holds. I will probably have to be active on both

[–] Fellangel@lemmy.one 8 points 2 years ago

I just deleted my Reddit account. I hope Lemmy and the federated system becomes a great replacement. I have found myself many times quite "over" Reddit. The community has grown polarized and has given way and voice to reflect some of the worst of humanity. I try to keep an open mind and compartmentalize the rest. For me that was the first strike. Beyond that, this move to monetize Reddit by taxing the community that made it what it is today just let's me know they have forgotten who they are and that without us they don't have a site. I'm sure some will continue to use Reddit. I won't be over of them and while I know I don't matter much against millions of users, but I know that many more than just me are sick of the same things and our voice matters. In short, nothing will bring me back. If someone is willing to do this to begin with, then they're willing to do it again.

[–] CoachDom@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 years ago

I switched to Reddit when I made a decision I'm done with the big corpo like Meta and I deleted all my social media accounts including WhatsApp. I got Signal and convinced all my friends and family to do the same so now I have a fully functioning social circle there. I moved from Reddit to Lemmy now because I realised that Reddit is more or less the same - the answer to most of the internet issues atm is open source/decentralised services. So I moved here. Still missing a lot of stuff from Reddit though - mostly thriving meme communities...

[–] honk@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago

There is one thing they could do: Just federate with lemmy. :D:D:D

[–] Echolot@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They would probably have to drop their plans of going public for me to reconsider. Of course I know this is never ever gonna happen in this reality…

[–] Arystique@beehaw.org 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Going public never made any sense to me, it feels so short sighted as whenever you sell more stock you lose more control of your company and stock holders have literally no interest in seeing your company succeed if your company starts failing their just going to bail on you and invest somewhere else

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[–] rubythulhu@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] kethali@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago

At this point - nothing. I've been less and less happy with that place lately, and this is just the final push. Hopefully I'll find a lot of the same things either here, or somewhere else, or just not at all I guess.

[–] mrwiggles@prime8s.xyz 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Too late, I've invested too much time, money, and effort into setting up my own Lemmy instance so I can share the love of open source and federated projects with others. What happens if lemmy.ml is overloaded? Go somewhere else and set up an account, and you can reduce the load on their servers.

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[–] thumbtack@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago

while i have been liking my time here, i can’t say i’ll never go on reddit again. i’d like for lemmy to become my primary browsing platform, but there simply isn’t my favourite niche communities on here- in particular r/namenerds, r/battlejackets, r/posthardcore, and all the bullet journalling subs. unless those communities migrate, i’ll still go on reddit (yes, mobile) to engage with them, since those are some of my favourite hobbies, even if i’m hoping to spend more time with lemmy.

[–] oakley@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Saying this as a current Reddit user so this is less of a "winning me back" list and more of a wishlist. Either way...

-Reverse API decisions, support 3rd party apps
-Make new design less shit
-Decentralizing. Not through blockchains or NFT trinkets but through open sourcing and federating with a network like this one. This was Jack Dorsey's plan for Twitter and this is why he funded the development of Bluesky. The plan was to eventually develop Twitter into a client for Bluesky, but he had to fuck everything up by pushing for Elon to buy it, which is a shame because this would have been the best ending for the platform. Reddit doing the same would be the best ending for it as well, but like I said, this is just a wishlist. Modern Reddit would never support something like this.

[–] Marko@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The problem with (so called) Reddit protest is their decision won't change. All subreddits should protest UNTIL demands are met. Locking the subreddits on 48h won't do them any harm, but locking for an extended period of time might.

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[–] Dandroid@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

All they need to do is make RIF not shut down. Whatever that takes. I'm not using their shitty app.

[–] RoboRay@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Either free access to the API for mobile app developers or allow mobile app developers to run adds to pay for API access at a price corresponding to the actual costs involved with providing the API access...

And fix the linking "bug" they created 5 years ago to try to force old.reddit site users to migrate to the new shitty reddit site by breaking links on old.reddit.

But neither of those will happen... and I'm actually happy about that. I've been growing more and more dissatisfied with Reddit for years, and if they decide to wreck it they can wreck it. I will miss what it used to be, but I won't miss what it has become.

[–] Arystique@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tbh Lemmy feels like all the kind side of Reddit I remember from like r/whatisthis and r/explainlikeimfive and it feels like what Reddit was for me when I joined bout 10 years ago

[–] Fapper_McFapper@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Remember the Voat migration? Except this time it looks like it’s all nice people leaving Reddit. Which of course means if enough sane and nice people leave reddit, what will be left? Just bots talking to bots and a bunch of angry people.

[–] Arystique@beehaw.org 7 points 2 years ago

Will Reddit become a ghostship of a website? That would be so funny

[–] bdonvr@lemmy.rogers-net.com 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Go back to being open source, become a non-profit.

Basically not gonna happen.

The profit motive will just recreate this same scenario no matter what they promise.

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[–] AboveYou5280@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Honestly the best thing for Lemmy would be if Reddit did completely reverse this decision and retain it's users. Then, Lemmy would remain relatively small and act as a much better internet community. If Reddit loses a large portion of it's users to Lemmy (to be fair, I am one of these people), then eventually Lemmy will become a festering wound as well. I mean, when Reddit was young it felt just like Lemmy does today, and none of us at that time could have ever expected it to end up this way.

[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.house 7 points 2 years ago

I am running PowerDeleteSuite on both my reddit accounts as i type this. My basic edit is that due to reddits api changes i no longer feel welcome, have moved to lemmy, and support the blackout. I will give a few hours to settle and then delete both accounts

[–] Subito@beehaw.org 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There is literally nothing.... I just used Reddit for r/nosleep. I'll live without it. It's permanently erased any goodwill it had with me.

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[–] John_Coomsumer@beehaw.org 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Step 1: A backpedal to their roots, openness and FOSS leaning development. Allow reasonably cheap API access that still gives them some money from the AI trawlers but allows 3rd parties to function, stop blasting me with gigantic notification on my mobile browser to use the terrible official app every time I view a thread (or even literally forcing you off the page period if its 'nsfw' content like elden ring threads, apparently??)

Step 2: Focus on genuine usability. The official app is DOG ASS. The "new" reddit experience is a nightmare compared to old reddit. Videos STILL don't load and run properly, after literally 5 or 6 years. Straight up embarrassing stuff for software developers.

Step 3: Take a genuine stance on moderation and content. Either direction; free-for-all where only the clearly illegal is removed, or tightly moderated with global rules. This current system is a completely broken mess, you'll get the_donald literally breeding terrorists in the open for years, but I can't use call another user an "asshole loser" without getting kicked out of a subreddit? I just dont think the weird federalist style subreddit system works all that well. Global, clear, enforced rules.


If they did these things I think I would return. The real crazy thing is that they could do all of these things and still increase profitability. If the official app was actually good, more people would use it, and the massive amount of calls home and data collection it does would be way more profitable. Jump on the bandwagon, make a reddit LLM chat-bot that is fed only on reddit threads, it would probably be genuinely decent. Or at least make reddit search work, you would siphon off a ton of google search traffic. you know. innovate, at all, even a little. The money would come in. But not AS FAST AS POSSIBLE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE I WANT TO SCROOGE MCDUCK THIS SHIT levels, and thats what the ownership and (soon to be) shareholders will push them towards. So none of this will happen, sadly.

[–] crossmr@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

They need to fix everything. I can barely report anything on the site without being banned for it. The admin come around later and fix it and apology, but because that's happened so many times, safety's first response is permanent ban which means I have to use an alt to contact them and get them to fix it. Despite the fact that they told me several times all the suspensions and warnings would be removed, they aren't. I reported something for being a duplicate a couple weeks ago (it was there was another copy on the front page of the sub, and it was one of their report reasons) and came back an hour later to both a permanent ban notice for 'report abuse' for that, and also the fact that my account wasn't actually banned because someone had come through and unbanned me. The site is bordering on being beyond repair at this point.

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[–] palimpsest@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

Apologise to Christian for the slander. And that’s just to start.
No point listing the other requirements since the first one will not be met anyway. The most we will get it “I’m sorry Christian felt that way”.

[–] ultraHQ@beehaw.org 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if anything could at this point. The large amount of users has resulted in a lot lower quality of posts.

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