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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] platypus_plumba@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I really hate these headlines. "100 times more!!! Will somebody think of the children!!!"

A better headline would express if this is actually concerning or not for our health. 100 times more than an insignificant quantity can still be an insignificant quantity.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Let's put it this way: it's infinitely more plastic than would be in your body under natural circumstances.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

They want you to accept your role in a capitalist society. There's no need for numerous public water fountains if you can pay for water, and since you're not paying for the premium glass bottles, you should accept some microplastics.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Or, society could actually provide a lot of public fountains, but that might mean taxing the richest to the point where they only have enough money for a hundred lifetimes, instead of a thousand lifetimes.

[–] zik@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I mean bottled water even tastes like plastic so it should be no surprise to anyone.

[–] Hazmatastic@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hate water companies as much as the next guy, but processing water can be really expensive and would be disastrous for a company to do poorly. This take is like saying "you know fence companies don't produce iron, right?" No, but it takes money to make the iron into a fence, just like it takes money to make water potable.

That said, water companies can still go eat a dick. Idk how ethical smaller companies like liquid death are, but I just refill a reusable bottle when at all possible. I will go thirsty out of spite if the only water available is Nestlé. There is a lot more to complain about than saying they "don't produce anything."

[–] schnokobaer@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago

What company that sells bottled water processes it themselves? The two types I know are syphoning it from a spring and those (at least where I'm from) are not allowed to process it and still call it "from spring XYZ"... and those who just fill up tap water somewhere where it can pass as mineral water and then transport it over the globe.

[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

“You know what would make water better? A small container with a shitload of microplastics!“

Filtration gang for life

[–] SatyrSack@lemmy.one 12 points 2 years ago

They don't technically produce the water, but they are probably the ones filtering it and stuff

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

It's worse than that. They consume the bottles, and then resell the bottles filled with something that is supposedly a human right, for profit.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Pretty sure they don’t claim that they “produce water”.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

When they first started showing up at gas stations I thought it was so absurd. That day I learned if it exists in a retail store someone will buy it.

[–] brian@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is without me looking it up because I don't really care enough to. But more than likely, the bottled water companies do not make their own bottles. They probably buy from manufacturers of bottles, then do the hard part of filling them up.

[–] Knightfox@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Majority of the bottlers who are of notable size buy "blanks" which are heated, blown, and formed by equipment as part of the bottling process. Blanks are essentially the lip and cap portion of the bottle, but instead of a bottle below that it's a vial of plastic about 2 inches long and an inch wide. It's cheaper to ship blanks and blow them at the destination than it is to ship fully formed bottles. The benefit of this method is that the bottler can have their own bottle design, but buy blanks from any standard producer.

From blanks to formed bottles filled with water is literally fractions of a second the process happens so fast. It takes longer for the bottle to get a label and end up in packaging than it does to form and fill.

EDIT: Also, very few bottlers produce their own water. They use tap water from a large municipality and then additionally treat it to match brand specs (taste and flavor). If you drink Dasani or Aquafina you're essentially drinking tap water.

[–] brian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

That's actually super interesting. When I was typing out my first post, my main thought was "man it'd actually be pretty silly to ship around cases of empty bottles". But having blanks ready to be blown into more custom molds owned by the different manufacturers would certainly be a way around it.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Funny how things change. 30 years ago drinking bottled water was considered snobby

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I remember when it first started gaining popularity, and there were plenty of naysayers that couldn't believe people would pay for water. What I really can't believe is that people pay up to $10 for a bottle of water if the bottle is fancy enough.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

It's still largely considered insane in most parts of the world.

[–] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago

I lived in lower middle class and saw plenty of bottled water.

[–] PhilipJFryJr@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Who are those horrible orange creatures over there?

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Tell them I hate them!

[–] boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

The Donald's bastard children my dear

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago
[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They don't actually produce the bottles. They buy them from another manufacturer and just fill them with water.

You're mostly paying for the cost of the bottle plus artificial markups for your water. A Brita filter for tap water is much more cost effective for the consumer assuming their tap water is safe.

[–] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I mean, it's literally in the name

[–] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not filling up my Stanley in a gas station bathroom.

[–] thisfro@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Feels bad man

I've done this multiple times where I live and the water was as great as anywhere else

[–] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's awesome. I'm glad you don't care that most these bathrooms are cleaned up by minimum wage employees who couldn't give a fuck. I for one will avoid those sinks and purchase one that I know is sanitary.

[–] Sadbutdru@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago

I feel like letting the water flow for a few seconds, and maybe rubbing round the spout of the tap with a wet finger, is good enough safety-wise. My main problem is almost all public was basins I see have mixer taps with no way make it 100% cold. I'm not keen on drinking water that's been through the boiler/heating system as those things always look manky inside, it makes sense to me that more (or more dangerous) microbes might be present in the warmth, and it tastes bad anyway.

[–] dan42O@infosec.pub -1 points 2 years ago