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[–] comrade19@lemmy.world 106 points 1 year ago (3 children)

After quitting i feel like im missing out on nothing. I sail the seas if i actually need anything, and it probably wasn't on netflix anyway

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

I never had Netflix. Or any streaming subscription. I considered it once, several years ago, but I couldn't justify it at prices then, and I sure as shit won't waste my money now. I'll help them save their bandwidth.

[–] harry_balzac@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I had Netflix and Hulu about 10 years ago and it was worth it. Then I dropped Netflix and got Prime. Dropped Prime and Hulu then did Disney+ bundle...that was good but now I sail the seas with friends. So much better. So many movies and shows I would have missed out on.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I didn't mind the small increase to 11.99, but the way they're doing this just rubs me the wrong way.

They're not only increasing the sub price, but tinkering with the display quality too AND laying people off... Netflix just doesn't deserve my cash when I can access most of this content via other means.

I got rid of a bunch of subs at the beginning of the year, getting rid of NF too.

[–] locuester@lemmy.zip 79 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Kinda shitty of the chart creator to leave out 2018 and 2021. While the point still stands, it biases it against Netflix.

It’s just purposefully misleading. Not cool, chart maker dude. Not cool.

[–] yum13241@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is not even a correct chart.

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[–] Rev3rze@feddit.nl 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What happened in those years and why were they omitted? It's odd that they just leave it out with (as far as I could tell from the linked source) no explanation for that.

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[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 75 points 1 year ago (18 children)

For a streaming platform to be actually useful it needs to be a almost monopoly like steam. Netflix had a chance but missed the spot, due to the greed of Studios. So it's back to fractured marked until someone comes with a fresh idea of how to distribute video.

[–] Shurimal@kbin.social 99 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Or many service providers competing on price, quality of service and features, not competing on exclusivity like they do now.

Like grocery stores. Imagine if only one chain has the exclusive rights to sell potatoes and another one has rights to pasta. They can ask whatever price they want, because what you gonna do? Go to another store to get your 'taters cheaper? Hah, you'll cry and you'll pay what we ask! (BTW, growing your own potatos and sharing them with your neighbor infringes on our rights and is illegal. We'll sue you to oblivion if we catch you doing it.)

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I think a better example is just physical media sales. Retailers generally all carried the same physical stock. You would occasionally see special editions or something that might only be available at certain stores, but it was extremely rare to only be able to buy certain titles at certain retailers.

Or the prime example: movie theaters. We passed regulations to prevent movie theaters from being bought by studios and used as exclusive avenues for the distribution of certain media. You had a movie, you released it to all movie theaters that wanted it, you couldn't just make a deal or buy out Regal or Cinemark, or make your own theater. It ensured a level playing field.

One of the biggest problems with streaming that we have simply refused to acknowledge is that the safeguards necessary to create a healthy market, the safeguards we've used previously with other distribution models, were never put in place. And we're seeing the fallout of that now.

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[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Does not work for media, since media is a good that you need a specific version of. You don't really care what potatoes you buy (simplification) but if you want to watch a specific show, movie or play a game -you can't really subsidize it with another. So exclusivity does not work for potatoes but works for media. We would need a global overhaul of copyright to work this one out.

[–] tate@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It totally works for media. Just need a law that says, if a work is published, anyone can distribute it for the same fair licensing fee. That's the way "cover" music works - any cover band can play any other musician's work. Nobody can refuse them that right. Then the venue where they perform pays a flat fee to an agency for the license. This doesn't work great in music, but we could create a better model for streaming. it's not impossible.

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[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, it doesnt have to be. Look at Spotify vs Apple Music, vs tidal etc. full catalogues at all of them. It’s the business model that needs to change.

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[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

TBH Steam feels like a ticking timebomb. At some point Valve is going to get a new shite CEO or something and everyone will go "oh..."

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If Gabe cares, he will make a foundation or something.

[–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 10 points 1 year ago

If Gabe cares he likely already handed leadership over to allow for an interim period where he could step in and Veto any decisions he thinks are crap

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[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Little unfair to say they "missed" anything when they can't control what studios do with their licenses.

I still see people occasionally complain that Netflix "got rid" of stuff, like the Office. There's a lot of shitty things you can blame Netflix for, but that isn't one of them.

It's also not new. HBO, Showtime, Stars, etc all had rotating on-demand catalogs for years before Netflix, with content appearing briefly before being removed, and no one thought that was odd. I never once heard anyone suggest HBO was shit because Austin Powers or whatever was taken off it. It came with the understanding this content was not permanently available.

Part of it is that people had a bad understanding of what Netflix was, and assumed it would be a permanent replacement for a personal collection. That was always a foolish mindset.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

Little unfair to say they “missed” anything when they can’t control what studios do with their licenses.

Little unfair of your to leave out:

due to the greed of Studios

Wich makes clear, I don't blame netflix.

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[–] Kekzkrieger@feddit.de 60 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Their subscriber rate goes up anyway, so they dont care.

Most of the people are to lazy or dont care enough to vote with their wallet unfortunately

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[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Price increase alone isn't enshittification. But the amount and quality of what they offer is dropping at the same time.

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[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 41 points 1 year ago (6 children)

And their catalog is actually super small now. My wife and I watch a bunch of horror movies, and I think there's only like 20. They try to pad that number by pretending that foreign films are actually in English.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And they change the pictures around all the time to make you think it's something new, when in fact you've seen it before. And because it's bland as all fuck, you notice this like 45 minutes in.

[–] CalicoJack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It isn't just the cover art, they also A/B descriptions. And some of them are so different they're basically lies.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 points 1 year ago

The tags especially are just made up.

I got a picture of Matt Smith on one horror movie about a black couple. He was in it for like 2 minutes. It wasn't terrible, but they're algorithms are basic bitch enough to just go "you white? here's a white man"

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[–] fruity@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago (11 children)

And yet, they got 13 million new subscribers last 3 months

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[–] kworpy@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can't enshittificate our torrent clients 🤷

[–] EvilLootbox@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

µTorrent would like a word

[–] kworpy@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Who still uses that garbage? qBittorent is the same thing except theres no adware or spyware.

[–] EvilLootbox@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

qBittorrent is great

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 year ago

standard stayed the same price for a whole year so i guess that it's due for a price hike

[–] FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't subscribe to Netflix if it saved their families from cancer. Stop fucking increasing your prices while you decrease service.

[–] J12@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I think I’m going to buy one of those sketchy streaming boxes with thousands of channels.

That or learn how to download and host my own content.

Anyone have any thoughts or ideas?

Edit: just realized what sub I’m in. Guess I better start reading up.

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[–] stown@sedd.it 17 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I get that "enshitification" is the hot new buzzword but cold we please give it a rest. Reading this community you start to think that people can't express that the Internet is not to their liking in any other way.

[–] patatahooligan@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (4 children)

"Enshitification" does not mean "I don't like it". It is specifically about platforms that start out looking too good to be true and turn to shit when the user base is locked in. The term is generally used for cases where the decline in quality was pre-planned and not due to external factors. Using the same term each time is, in my opinion, an appropriate way to point out just how common this pattern is.

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[–] survivalmachine@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago

You're in the piracy sub. A large part of the conversation is going to be about the late-stage capitalism that is driving us to piracy.

[–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"Enshitification" means a service getting worse in order to charge their customers extra for a service similar to their previously good one. If we're using the word too much, it's because it's happening too much.

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[–] uis@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 9 points 1 year ago

No. That is the word. It's not a buzzword. It's a statement.

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[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 13 points 1 year ago (23 children)

After seeing this post a couple times (which speaks to its relevance) it got me thinking that enshittification (of the world) will definitely continue until our morale improves, as in until we make them stop. Are there any online collectives that work together to stop this tomfoolery?

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[–] GreenPlasticSushiGrass@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It's included with our cellular plan. If they drop it, I be returning to the high seas, yarr.

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Do you have a source?

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

This chart should show the inverse correlation of the length of their series.

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