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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (23 children)

Sure. Glugging down the lactation of other species intended for their babies is weird. It's weird and should be more stigmatized.

[–] Kase@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Are you saying it'd be less weird to glug down human milk?

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[–] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If we think about this way, yes it is indeed pretty weird but it has really great nutrients which are crucial for children to grow in a healthy way (in moderation just like with any other food, fruit, vegetable).

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think milk has vitamins and nutrients as well, vitamins and nutrients that can be easily supplemented by other dietary sources.

It's much more the fact that it's just day to day normal to drink breast milk from other animals.

"What do you like to drink?"

"Milk."

"What's that?"

"This breast juice from other animals. It's super healthy for the percentage of our population that can digest it."

"Oh...Why from other animals?"

"Well, we're not going to drink human breast milk, that would be gross. I mean, we give it to babies. Cow and goat lactation, though, that's for grown-ups."

[–] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yeah I was talking about milks too. Probably it's relatively easy to supplement milk with other sources but are those choice economically viable? Protein powders are a bit expensive + as an average joe, payin 3x+ more for plant based milk products are bit too much for me currently, but a 2x could convince me to opt for a plant based one. I'm not really knowledgable in this area, there must be some other options too for replacing milk in a cost effective way.

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[–] SpookyOperative@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't think "it's weird therefore bad" is a good argument. If you're gonna argue for veganism (which I don't have a problem work doing!) I think there are way, way better reasons.

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

We need vitamin D3, and there aren't that many sources you can get it from.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

All other mammals not drinking milk past infancy: Am I a joke to you?

Literally all you need to do is touch grass a few times a week.

[–] vsis@feddit.cl 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

that's not a good argument. Other animals doesn't cook food or wear clothes.

we do, since both things are older than our species, so we evolved this way. We'd die without cooking and clothes.

domestic animals and drinking milk are a newer thing, but our species do this weird things all the time.

that being said, vitamin D can be foud elsewhere lol

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

We have absolutely zero evolutionary need for milk past infancy. It's all culture and marketing.

Just because we do those things you mentioned doesn't mean they're necessary. In fact, I assure you, neither clothes nor cooking are strictly necessary for an individual's survival. They're convenient and comfortable, but not physiologically necessary. Obviously we'd freeze in cold climates, but there are plenty of places on earth we could survive well enough without.

We do need vitamin D to survive, but you can literally just get it directly from sunlight. The more time you spend inside, and the more thoroughly you clothe yourself, the more likely you are to need to supplement it. Simple as. You only need 30m outside 3x a week (2hrs in winter regions).

Another funny thing about milk, is that all the natural vitamin A and D is removed in processing. They literally have to re-fortify it again, so the only reason it's billed as this "healthy" thing is because it's basically a lab-made liquid vitamin.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We have absolutely zero evolutionary need for chocolate. It's all culture and marketing.

We have absolutely zero evolutionary need for coffee. It's all culture and marketing.

We have absolutely zero evolutionary need for beer. It's all culture and marketing.

You can apply that to virtually anything we consume that isn't plants or meat.

[–] vsis@feddit.cl 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have absolutely zero evolutionary need for Lemmy. It’s all tankies and linux users.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

Hey now! I'll have you know that only about a third of my computers run Linux right now

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, exactly, now you're getting it! Glad we agree. The entire argument being made here is a purely normative one, not of necessity.

[–] Player2@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago

Most of the useful things in milk are there because we artificially added them in. There is no real reason for this, it's just what we have been doing for a long time

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[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Peak Lemmy for me is reading shit like this and being unsure if it is a joke or not

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[–] !deleted120991@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What am I supposed to wash this peanut butter down with; human milk? Disgusting!

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Water? The thing adult humans evolved to drink.

[–] Riplikash@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A good chunk of human adults also evolved to drink milk, my dude.

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[–] Stoneykins@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't appeal to evolution, evolution is weird. Evolution just does whatever survival says. If we can survive drinking milk, evolution is cool with it. But evolution is weird, evolution will be all like "You like cows milk huh? That's cool, have you considered shrinking down and losing your brain and most internal organs to become a nipple latching milk parasite? No? Ok, I'll ask again later."

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