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[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 85 points 1 year ago (1 children)

FWIW From the article

But the Philippine coast guard on Sunday said it hadn't found any evidence of Chinese fishermen using cyanide and couldn't confirm the fisheries bureau's accusation.

"We don't have any scientific study or any evidence that would suggest that cyanide fishing in Bajo de Masinloc can be attributed to the Chinese or the Vietnamese fishermen," GMA News quoted a coast-guard spokesperson, Commodore Jay Tarriela, as saying.

The Philippines' fishing industry was known to use cyanide fishing back in the 1960s to capture live fish for aquariums and restaurants, though the practice has become less common. In 2023, a study from the Coastal Conservation and Education Foundation in Cebu, the Philippines, found that some Filipino fishermen still used cyanide in the South China Sea.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago (4 children)

And then in another Lemmy thread right now, praise for the Chinese on their affordable EVs that will save the environment.

[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 44 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Depending on where you go, it's either "this country is a fascist regime as reported by these hundreds of outlets worldwide and here's the shady shit they're doing"

Or

"This tragically misunderstood DEMOCRACY (they call their leader PRESIDENT not DICTATOR emoji spam) is leading the world in literally every metric, have made 10,000 breakthroughs in every science but THE WEST won't let them share, here's 3 state sponsored media outlets confirming what I just said gif spam"

Not a whole lot in between.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And any argument against China will be summarized "China bad" in bad faith argument so brazen that it's almost impressive. For example, TikTok is blameless because if you oppose it, you're just saying "China bad". Fuck the Internet sometimes.

[–] shartedchocolate@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

fAcEbOoK dOeS iT tOo ThO

[–] mako@lemmy.today 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've blocked exactly one person on Lemmy and it's Yothgos or Yogthos or whatever the fuck their name is. They're either a propagandist in China or just a very sad person who posts prolifically about how amazing China is, dismissing any criticism against it. It's weird, sad, and annoying seeing them pop up in any thread about China. I assume they have or will pop in this thread but I don't know as they're blocked.

[–] PlasmaDistortion@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I am convinced it’s a Chinese propaganda account shared by multiple people and/or bots.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

well it says in the article they have no proof and this is just a hunch...

and ive seen enough of these to be suspicious every time.

[–] Lumilias@pawb.social 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s almost as if nuanced discussion is discouraged on platforms like this.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Decent discussion get bridaged and muddled by those who want to maintain status quo.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

its not the chinese wanting status quo though

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anyone with an exploit wants to keep exploiting it.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its a generic statement.

Any actual human should have been able to understand the significance of the sentance.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

are there exploits or you just think there are?

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago

Read the article instead of the gotcha title.

The Philippines has been known to use cyanide for fishing for the past 60 years. The Philippines coast guard says they haven't found any actual evidence that China is using cyanide in the area.

The only proven thing, according to the article is that China is being a huge dick and forcefully trying to claim areas of the sea they have no right to and overfishing the area while keeping a lot of Philippine fishers out.

There's a small handful of countries being total dicks right now around the world. Nato needs to grow a pair and sanction the hell out of them. Russia, n Korea, China, and a few other countries just need fully cut off and have a non negotiable and irrevocable minimum 25 year sanction put in place. That would be long enough that other manufacturers and companies/countries would invest in picking up and creating supply lines and manufacturing facilities. No one would be willing to invest in picking up the slack if they know it's only short term. Keep them in a damned box.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Maybe painting 1.4 billion people with the same brush is a bad idea. Who'd have guessed?

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"We don't have any scientific study or any evidence that would suggest that cyanide fishing in Bajo de Masinloc can be attributed to the Chinese or the Vietnamese fishermen," GMA News quoted a coast-guard spokesperson, Commodore Jay Tarriela, as s

so just a hunch being spun as news. this smells propagandish to me.

[–] TakiMinase@slrpnk.net 24 points 1 year ago

An act of war that will spite their own face.