Waiting for nvidia to not write the worst firmware ever with so many obfuscated shit that allows the real chad reverse engineers of noveau project to create free software firmware from it.
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I think they just got a huge boost from the vulkan thing and with open Nvidia modules. But the tests seemed to indicate it was still something like 60% of the performance and only on some specific cards. Sad.
It would be so nice if the Nvidia situation was as good as AMD situation or especially Intel situation right now.
And the worst part: if you have actual needs for ML stuff - you kinda are stuck with nvidia cards, so you can't even switch when the need for upgrades arise.
You can do that on AMD but it is a bit slower and takes a little more time
Not in my experience. ComfyUI segfaults on a 7900 XT, EndeavourOS, no matter what I do.
I'm not sure if we're ever going to get the full potential of a card out of NVK, but the fact that running them above base clock is now possible is pretty huge already.
(Unless I misunderstood something, but I believe that's now a thing)
When I was new to linux, I followed a guide on youtube and didn't know I installed noveau instead of nvidia. I couldn't watch any yt video without massive screen tearing. I thought it was arch linux problem. I wish there was an easier guide out there for new users. Arch wiki is super good but navigating it as a beginner is a bit hard in my opinion.
New Linux users usually do not use Arch though. Arch doesn't advertise itself as friendly to new Linux users. This problem doesn't exist on distros that cater to new Linux users such as Mint. If you insist on using an Arch-based system, then just use endeavour os which also handles Nvidia drivers automatically.
well Linus had to pick menjaro first
Yep. I agree. I forgot to mention I did use ubuntu as my first distro. I was not a fan of it after the snap thing. Maybe this problem would be solved with cosmic os.
Iβm a fairly recent convert to Linux (currently trying out Fedora). I thought GNOME was trash and I didnβt get why anyone used it until I realized that the nvidia kernel wasnβt loading any it was defaulting back to noveau.
Fixed that problem and now all the DEs that Iβve tried seem beautiful and fast, including GNOME.
This might have accidentally been why I thought Unity DE was a piece of shit back in the day...it still is, but for different reasons.
Should not have used arch as a beginner. It is an advanced distro
Distros like Pop os and Linux Mint tell you to install the proprietary drivers. (For good or bad)
arch-install
Arch install is really nice. I use it pretty regularly now. It definitely is very good rn. But I wish there was a small webpage kinda thing that explains os, de, wm and drivers to new users. Archinstall is definitely a step in the right direction.
Write it up!
Go tell NVidia to make their cards easily reclockable by anything other than their proprietary drivers and it'll happen.
C'mon, buy a 7900, you know you want it too.
Or a 580 or 590. Honestly graphics performance is solid on older cards and integrated graphics.
If you use a rolling/half rolling release like Tumbleweed/Fedora, Nouveau is pretty usable and it progresses. That is unless you are a gamer or do AI stuff. It is Nvidia who had to provide an open source driver to their customers. I don't think Nvidia customers figure they are customers, not beggars as they don't demand it. That even includes governments and the military.
Yeah I am indeed a gamer. I wouldn't care if I wasn't
Predictions of which will win the race?
- noveau being useful with new nVidia GPUs
- we'll reach the year of Linux desktop
Imo 2022 was the year of the desktop cause of the steam deck
Its actually getting there with NVK. By summer I predict it will be working on upstream distros like Arch and Fedora.
Alright how the fuck is that pronounced, im tired of seeing this word everywhere and saying it in my head like 8 times wondering if im pronouncing it right
I think it's French for new.
So...noo-vo
Pretty much it
It's French for new
I always assumed that it is pronounced the same as in art nouveau:
No-vo
Thanks
New - voh
Tell me you're American...
Its got way too many vowels and my first time seeing it was bc of a minecraft mod
It's just French. π It's even a borrowed word in English.
I'm kidding, btw. I'm American, too
Oh i knew you were kidding lol, sorry if my response seemed defensive or deadpan i just be like that
I thought it was funny
π you're awesome. We should be friends
Yup. You know it's not the closed source drivers that annoy me. It's the fact they don't mesh well with mesa. Ergo certain features (eg. opengl and vulkan acceleration of virtual machines) just don't make it to nvidia cards unless you use the shitty driver.
I've been using nouveau on my laptop fpr a few weeks now, and so far, no issues
Have you played games?
no, not on my laptop, why?
Yeah that's where nouveau becomes unusable