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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago (16 children)

Mam, I wish geopolitics was as simple as you "genocide joe" bros seem to think it is.

This is actually huge and we should be celebrating it as a win. We'll that's if you actually care about the people of Gaza and don't just want to use them as an excuse to attack Biden.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 11 months ago

the "genocide joe" people are pretty much the same as the people attacking dr. fauci for pushing vaccines, tbh

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

So you think if Biden was so inclined to he could just say "no more support for Israel" and everyone would just happily go along with it because he's president and everyone has to do what he says?

Or would an administration with no majority in either the senate or the house maybe have trouble going against decades of policy and doctrine, to abandon its closest ally in an incredibly unstable and important region and put at risk American political and corporate interests in the area?

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[–] ZK686@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is so silly. This is just Biden trying to keep both sides of his own party happy....

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

It’s a bold move Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for him.

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Did they find oil in Gaza? /s

But for real though, if/when Israel bombs a US-built humanitarian shipping port, will the US finally stop supplying bombs?

[–] harderian729@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Learning the history behind this conflict has made me reach the conclusion that the only way for it to be resolved is for Zionists to return the land they've stolen.

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[–] febra@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (17 children)

Just stop Israel and the problem is solved. No need to complicate yourselves with a damn port.

[–] HollandJim@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Just consider reality occasionally, ‘k?

[–] febra@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Which is? To keep giving them bombs to kill children while also morally posturing and talking about how awful it is what Israel is doing?

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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

"We are not waiting on the Israelis"

Also

The scheme will take several weeks to put into action, however, carrying the risk of supplying too little relief, too late.

Someone tell Biden that if he actually wants to do something he has a few aircraft carriers and frigates nearby perfectly capable of delivering food

Or maybe Biden doesn't want to do anything. He just wants to make it look like he does something. Wonder which it could be.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You people are actually braidead.

Please tell me how a frigate, nevermind a fuckjng aircraft carrier can deliver supplies without a fuckjng port to dock in?

[–] homura1650@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The big ship stays in the water, and is used to supply smaller water craft that can ferry them directly to the coast; either by using smaller existing docks, or by simplying beaching on the cost. Unless we are saying that the US military lacks the ability to do a water based ground attack unless the enemy kindly leaves a port for them to use.

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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

Aircraft carriers actually have a lot of storage space since they have to be able to cruise around for a long time without resupplying. They have many "smaller" boats surrounding them which can easily transport food if they used their life boats.

If there''s a will there's a way. People are actively dying of starvation.

Waiting multiple weeks to build a pier for "clean delivery" is what I would use the adjective in your comment for.

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Israel already blocks all ship based access to Gaza. Building a port won't change this

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I double dog dare Israel to try and stop a US Navy relief mission.

It does make one wonder why they didn't just land at Gaza's actual seaport.

Entirely possible you just can't anymore.

[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (4 children)

They shoot their own hostages in what seems like remenants or revival of the hanibal directive. It'd be foolish to assume they wont bite the hand that feeds, especially when they get away with everything they do. Why would Israel expect consequences?

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[–] homura1650@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

But having the US navy run it might. Essentially, it becomes a question of who blinks first. Humanitarian organizations run away scared when the regional power starts dropping bombs and shhoting at them; and Israel knows it.

Picking a fight wirh the US military is a much bigger deal. This is why the US response to conflicts is often just "send in an aircraft carrier to float around near the issue"

[–] raynethackery@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Where is Meggido, again?

[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

This is a moment for American leadership

Oooooooh shiiiit we know how this plays out

Still, at least the Palestinians have a shot at winning this one then 😂

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] OsaErisXero@kbin.run 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean, it probably won't be worse then the status quo

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We say that every time and every time it gets worse

[–] nac82@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

WW2 Nazi Germany. America and the Allies stopped the Holocaust.

You can say we've fucked a lot of our military interventions up, but we have stopped genocide before.

[–] DarkMessiah@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Yeah, our ancestors stopped genocide during World War 2. And then other ancestors tried to engage in genocide against Vietnam. And now we’re only just starting to attempt to convince Israel to not do genocide. So the record currently stands 1-1, with the current one being the tiebreaker.

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