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[–] Durandal@lemmy.today 23 points 11 months ago

My money is on the youthful, blonde, blue-eyed swordsman with the mysterious past who can use magic crystals to perform magic!

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If you max out Cloud there's not a chance in hell Link could beat him. He can summon gods and kills planet-defending monsters.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Cloud can summon a chocobo!

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

What is another dungeon boss to the boy of legend?

[–] finkrat@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Only way that is happening is with Link fully armed and Cloud with no materia. Cloud is superhuman at his base self, his Lvl. 3 and 4 limit breaks are brutal, and he just gets worse with Haste, Reflect, etc., never mind offensive spells like Ultima, Comet, summons...

Link is resourceful, he may outwit Cloud and I think he is genuinely smarter, but he will absolutely not beat him in a straight fight. Just not happening.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Maybe? Its highly dependant on a lot of factors. If Cloud can use healing items and magic, then does that mean Link can use fairies? If thats the case, then Link would technically be immortal.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Can Link summon fairies endlessly? Theoretically, Cloud could max out final attack and phoenix summons and then as long as he has MP he can respawn when killed and also max out items that restore MP. Link would essentially need to have limitless fairies.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Final attack + phoenix, mp absorb + master summon. KotR + MP Turbo Don't need MP items anymore since any summon gives all your MP back, including the phoenix final attack that rezzes you.

Cloud wins under normal circunstances against any Link except maybe one wearing the Fierce Deity mask from MM and even then its close.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Link can freeze time and cook/eat though

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not in the regular Zelda games.

Also isnt FF7 turn based? Going by those rules Cloud can also freeze time.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean the last two Zelda games were mainline Zelda games. It's as regular as it gets.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

They threw everything in mainline Zelda games except the very original in the trash. BotW and TotK are very much NOT "regular" Zelda games.

[–] RealM@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Which version of FF7 are you referring to? And also which version of Link?

Either way, probably depends on who the writers want to win lol.

[–] VanHalbgott@lemmus.org 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah, true. Any of them will do.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Just to be difficult, I'll say Squall.

[–] finkrat@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I think that's how most people feel about FFVIII...

But I've still got my fingers crossed for a remake reboot on the tails of FFVIII.

[–] finkrat@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Please note that my original whatever was meant to be a reference 😄 Should have included a tone tag haha

Agreed, would be neat, but idk if they would be willing to go the distance for VIII. Maybe IX.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 4 points 11 months ago

I feel silly for missing that. I chose that dialogue option so many times.

[–] Zarxrax@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Settle it in smash?

[–] Grangle1@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Death Battle did two episodes on the matchup, with each of them winning once. Link won when he had all his items and Cloud could use materia but couldn't use summons (they were considered outside help which was against the rules in DB at the time). They said Link's massively varied arsenal more than made up for Cloud's pure strength advantage. Rematch, they added Link's abilities from BotW and gave Cloud his summons back, and Cloud won, with the pure overwhelming power of the summons, of course.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago

What good is the triforce anyway?

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What if Cloud kissed Link's leg?

[–] Nutteman@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Now this is a question I can really sink my teeth into

[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What if link leaned back in bliss

[–] swab148@startrek.website 3 points 11 months ago

What if Cloud's hair went flat

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

Oot link could probably win using a bottle and a stick or something. Or maybe play the bottle like an ocarina and pick up some grass while getting exploded and slide around and some other shit then warp straight to the credits.

[–] MacedWindow@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I don't see how Link could beat a super soldier even with all of his equipment. Could the master sword cut through the buster? That might do it.