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[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago
[–] RampageDon@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Doesn't it take only 1 of the counties with veto power to shut this down? Why would Russia ever approve?

Edit: Had a brain fart. Thanks for the corrections. Leaving my dumb comment anyway.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 78 points 1 year ago (2 children)

NATO. Not the UN. Russia has no say into nato since it was designed to fit Russia.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

designed to fit Russia.

Luckily Russia isn't fit.

[–] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Down voted for a joke based on someone else's typo... what a world we live in

Edit: that's more like it

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I'm doing my part!

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

Never ask a man their wage, never ask a woman their age, never ask who started NATO and why.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russia isn't in NATO, but they are it's most successful recruiter.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Which is why I'm baffled why people still spread the myth that Russia invaded to 'stop nato aggression.'

Like, firstly you're fucking wrong, but if you want to wear that L like a medal then go for it. Russia is the biggest reason the baltics joined.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I'm not sure who would say that it was to 'stop NATO aggression', but it's not hard to imagine it as a some kind of response to NATO's continued expansion around them.

NATO hasn't been in any direct operations against Russia but they have been involved in the ME where they have been active.

I think of it a lot in the same way as the US's pacific ocean and Caribbean territorial expansion and involvement in central america as a response to the Cuban Missile crisis and Soviet posturing.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think of it a lot in the same way as the US’s pacific ocean and Caribbean territorial expansion and involvement in central america as a response to the Cuban Missile crisis and Soviet posturing.

The "Cuban" missile crisis was started by USA putting nukes in Turkey.

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[–] Saff@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

NATO not the UN, Russia isn’t a member.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Who gave Russia a veto at NATO?

[–] MrEff@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] NIB@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

That's 20 billion per year. The EU's alone defense spending for 2023 was 270bil. This is not a lot of money.

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 28 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The EU has no defense budget, the member countries have.

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, this is less the cavalry is here and more "we've committed 3 peanuts, which is better than no peanuts". It's probably enough to help Ukraine a bit, assuming they can agree to it and fund it as committed.

It's unclear if this is humanitarian, non-lethal or general military aid, from the non-paywalled section of the article.

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[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

221 days until the next U.S. presidential election

Can Ukraine hold on that long?

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (142 children)

If Republicans have a majority in Congress, they'll continue to support Russia.

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[–] stewie3128@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I know NATO doesn't have unlimited resources, but given that this is an explicit proxy war with Russia, doesn't $100bn seem kind of paltry? That makes it appear that they're planning on continuing cash infusions from the US.

[–] stewie3128@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

EDIT: I'm saying that the US can't be relied on to continue supporting the war effort because the GOP in particular has become increasingly opposed to funding it.

[–] force@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It'd be so much better for everyone if we just took all of the funding going to Israel and redirected it to Ukraine. And then we nuke Israel or smthn idk

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