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It's not even surprising anymore platforms do this & act all Pikachu face why piracy is spiking

Netflix & all these streaming platforms have completely lost touch & they will lose more customers in the long run

To quote Gabe Newell on Piracy

"We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem. If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate’s service is more valuable."

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[–] sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works 144 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I accidentally pirate crap I have legitimate access to because I can't be bothered to figure out which damn platform its on. I have access to quite a few through work due to my industry at no out of pocket costs.

The times I try to actually search for something, it'll be listed on multiple platforms but 0 to 1 of those platforms will actually have what I'm looking for included with the subscription forcing me to manually check each one.

It is easier to just pirate.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 56 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah that’s called the *arr suite

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[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Your case would apply for the legitimate use of streamio, where you can log into all the services and you can watch whatever through that service's credentials.

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[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Rotten Tomatoes will usually say where it's streaming. Or a quick Google search of "(TV show) where streaming" will get you there. At least it used to, Google is shit these days so who knows.

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Justwatch.com is my go to

Cerement linked it in their comment

[–] dingus182@endlesstalk.org 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

JustWatch also has direct links to IMBD in their descriptions.

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

Yes. I use it as my first step for sailing. See if it’s on a service I have then grab the imdb identifier if it’s not. Very handy if you sail old school manually like I do.

[–] ECB@feddit.de 5 points 11 months ago

Depends on the country though as well. Its probably pretty easy to figure out for big ones like the USA, but in smaller countries its often a mess...

[–] Banzai51@midwest.social 4 points 11 months ago

That info can go stale quickly as content licensing changes. I've ran into that plenty.

[–] cobra89@beehaw.org 91 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Cable TV exists

Customers hate it and people start pirating

Netflix comes around, other streaming services

People happy, piracy goes down

Streaming services go back to the way cable was, increased prices, reduced content, started bundling shit you don't want.

Customers start pirating again

Surprised Pikachu face

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 55 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Maybe if we put ads in and take away the ability to download content foe offline use?

[–] snownyte@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago

NO! I've got something better!

We make the ads guilt you into using ad blockers! Then we pepper your active streaming with ADs every 30 seconds! YOU WILL BUY! YOU WILL CONSOOME!

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[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Netflix comes around, other streaming services

The (admittedly inevitable) appearance of other streaming services was shit already since with it came exclusive content.

[–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 74 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I despise ads. I can't even bring myself to watch Netflix or Amazon Prime. If there is advertising, it ain't worth it, no matter how cheap.

[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There's not enough of us, but I still don't care. I refuse to pay to watch ads. Also, I had Prime and they wouldn't let me watch high def with firefox on Linux, so even though I paid for it, I had to hit the high seas to watch content in high def.

[–] businessfish@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

There’s not enough of us, but I still don’t care. I refuse to pay to watch ads.

i had this conversation with my dad recently about how shitty everything is now with ads etc, and his response boiled down to "i don't care enough". sucks to see people being complacent in being subject to greedy corporate whims. as much as i want people with that mindset to care, i have no idea how to effectively argue against "i don't care".

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[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 67 points 11 months ago (1 children)

very much a convenience factor – Apple broke the MP3 sharing scene with the simplicity (at the time) of iTunes – video streaming started out simple but now it’s turned into cable TV, trying to find out which service is streaming a particular show, if it’s region-locked, or gated behind a premium upgrade, or just been dropped completely, or two services are still arguing over who gets the rights, or find out all the seasons are on one service except one season is on another service …

[–] viking@infosec.pub 11 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Was iTunes popular outside of the US? Everyone I know hated they intrusive software and DRM that prevented you from playing the songs elsewhere. Don't think I know a single person who actually purchased music there.

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[–] Doubleohdonut@lemmy.ca 66 points 11 months ago (2 children)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Dear Netflix, I've been a loyal customer since 2013. I've been perfectly happy with our arrangement. YOU are the one terminating our contract, not me. It seems you'd prefer to get rid of a happy, paying customer in the hopes you can somehow persuade them to embrace a higher cost or shittier experience (ads). That's a bold move Cotton. Buh-bye dons pirate hat

YARR MATEYS

[–] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 21 points 11 months ago

AOL still has 1.5 million active monthly subscribers. People forget to cancel subscriptions all the time.

Subscriptions are a great way to sell a service to someone who isn't using it, and when they want to cancel it getting the spent money on something never used is generally impossible.

IMO for something like a streaming service... if you don't stream a minute of video in a month you shouldn't have to pay anything.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 9 points 11 months ago

thing is, most of us should of known, they pulled this same crap back when they tried forcing everyone to drop the physical discs and switch to streaming only …

[–] DrummXYBA@sh.itjust.works 41 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Because i aint spending 3 figures a month on 5+ different sports streaming services to follow one team. Simple.

[–] anticurrent@sh.itjust.works 41 points 11 months ago

they first succeeded in curbing piracy before the moved to ruining the value of their offerings.

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 37 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They have billions of dollars i have hundreds. I'm sure they'll survive me not giving them any of my hard earned money

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Yeah but for a publicly traded company, quarterly growth is the name of the game. If the numbers go down long enough, it's game over for them.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Won't somebody please think about the shareholders?

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

I'll dance for them as I prance around the fire of their failed BSD l business model. Stupid, selfish cunts...

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)
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[–] noisypine@infosec.pub 9 points 11 months ago

I'm crying for them.

[–] r1ch134dl3r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

it's game over for them

Hopefully.

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[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They don't even have to go down. Staying stable or even going up at a consistent rate are both considered failure states, or at least unfavorable. If the rate of growth is not itself growing then they start worrying.

It's insane.

[–] enleeten@discuss.online 28 points 11 months ago

Reed Hastings: "But our stock price shows customers love enshittification?"

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 27 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Gee, we've tried taking content away, raising prices, injecting adverts and forcing them to use our crappy clients.

Why are people turning to piracy?

Advertising and lobbying are the only thing these people know how to do.

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[–] fernandu00@lemmy.ml 26 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The only thing that keeps me with subscriptions is the cartoons my daughter watches, because they are hard to find dubbed in my language (Portuguese). It's still more convenient to subscribe than try to find the dubbed cartoons online. For everything I watch I use my arr stack.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Depending on her age of course... But you can find SRT (subtitle) files for literally almost everything, often in dozens of languages. They're super tiny too since it's basically just a txt file

[–] Banzai51@midwest.social 4 points 11 months ago

There are still plenty of good deals in streaming if you have shifted to on-demand. If you want live TV or sports, they're out to gouge the fuck out of you. Luckily my Wife came around to on-demand only and an antenna. Of course, they're trying hard to take away the antenna option from everyone with ATSC 3.0.

[–] Thrife@feddit.de 25 points 11 months ago

Happens here in Germany too. We were not informed via mail but via a message when we started the app on the TV (not even on a phone). Since there are two other people on that account I decided to not just cancel but talk with both of them. We moved one tier down.. Yet.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 19 points 11 months ago

The studio cash grab explosion of streaming services is simply too inconvenient.
Subbing to everything you want to watch would still be cheaper than renting it all before streaming.
But Netflix has changed the value proposition and the stuidios are slitting their own throats trying to catch up.

[–] Strayce@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Now I remember why I don't pay attention to 7 news. This article is an ad in itself.

[–] Nom@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Customers will notice the change on their next bill. Netflix has quietly put up its prices across each subscription tier in Australia.

~~Why is this even legal, oh who am I kidding lobbying most likely.~~ They began notifying people on May 13. Thanks for the correction @blindsight@beehaw.org.

[–] blindsight@beehaw.org 8 points 11 months ago

They get 30 days notice of the price increase. That's pretty reasonable and in compliance with the law, I would assume.

[–] palarith@aussie.zone 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Case in point

The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare

Not available in Australia

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[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago (7 children)

I get Netflix for free from tmobile. But I use real-debrid and streamio to watch Netflix shows because the UI is better.

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