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America's largest LGBTQ rights group plans $15 million swing state blitz to re-elect Biden (www.nbcnews.com)
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And after crunching the numbers, the organization sees warning signs in the form of soft support for Biden in the 2024 electorate.

HRC estimates that this year there will be 75 million “equality voters” — who vote based on support for LGBTQ rights — up from 62 million in 2020 and 52 million in 2016. But the group says one-third of them aren’t a lock for Biden. In the six key swing states, hundreds of thousands are “at risk of not voting,” and another group of hundreds of thousands of voters are what HRC refers to as “double doubters” who will likely defect to a third party, according to data HRC shared with NBC News.

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[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is what I'm voting for Biden on. The fascists and the neoliberals take the same orders on the economy destroying our shared COMMUNal habitat for short term private profit. We're only permitted a vote on how to address the social symptoms of our growth/metastasis addicted capitalist economy we aren't and never will be permitted a vote on.

All we get to vote on as we sink into oblivion are the handling of social issue symptoms. I'm voting Biden because we don't need to ALSO use the country's Presidential bully pulpit to scapegoat LGBTQ, immigrants, pregnant women, etc for it as we sink into oblivion.

That's the only power we have, so why not be kind with it? Here at the end? Just be kind?

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Agreed. Social and climate legislation are the most clear differences in the candidates.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you don't like Biden and he wins, you'll have a chance to vote for someone else in 2028.

If Trump wins, that 2028 election is not assured.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/09/13/trump-says-he-will-negotiate-third-term-because-hes-entitled-to-it/?sh=3c2a866d287c

[–] Moneo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Also, yknow, the next 4 years will be a hell of a lot worse for a lot of people.

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.cafe -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

*republicans all powerful and get everything they want. Democrats held back by republicans blocking everything they do.

This isn't the best argument for supporting your party

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So tell what great viable far Left candidate is waiting hidden in the wings?

Please, I'm dying to know the great alternative you've got lined up.

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.cafe -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If Democrats did their job and held their politicians accountable an alternative wouldn't be necessary. They are supporting their own oppressors and striking back at anyone trying to hold them accountable.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So tell what great viable far Left candidate is waiting hidden in the wings?

Please, I’m dying to know the great alternative you’ve got lined up.

So much complaining, so little solution.

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.cafe -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My solution is to no longer support either right wing party. Can't claim to support progressive ideas while supporting the status quo that keeps everything the same.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hmmm... It's almost as if you don't understand how elections work.

Also, you should look up the history of progressives becuase this situation has come up in the past.

There were plenty of women and former slaves who worked for politicians even when they themselves couldn't vote. Those politicians couldn't promise to get them the vote, either.

But I guess you're more moral than those people long ago.

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.cafe -1 points 1 year ago

I understand how elections work, I also understand that voters have zero impact on policy or legislation. Thats a privilege reserved for the monied class.

[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's more like

Republicans are willing to bend the rules and cheat to get what they want

Democrats are cucks to the system that they think is perfect

Honestly, fuck both of them. There are no good candidates this election.

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.cafe -1 points 1 year ago

The thing is republicans dont have to cheat, the blue wing of fascism gives them everything they want. In rhetoric they are Pelosi ripping up her copy of Trumps SOTU, In action that very same day she gave him his requested military budget and threw in a few billion extra for good measure.

[–] juicy@lemmy.today 9 points 1 year ago

Seeing as Trump raised 50% more than Biden in April, Biden needs all the help he can get.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The best thing they could do is convince Biden to shut up about Israel unless it's to say, "We are stopping all military aid except air defense missiles to intercept rockets and we will not stand in the ICC's way."

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean - all power to them.

But Biden and the (so-called) "Democratic" party do not deserve any of this support.

[–] Moneo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What makes you think the dems "deserving" the votes has absolutely anything to do with this? LGBQT+ people be trying to exist and you're asking them if Biden "deserves" their vote?

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

What makes you think the dems “deserving” the votes has absolutely anything to do with this?

You really think the Dems are going to accept this support and think, "Gee, we should really do something to protect LGBQT+ folk, like... maybe not reaching across the aisle to the people that will gladly perpetrate mass-murder on them" huh?

If you do, I have a bridge to sell you.

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.cafe -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How arrogant would voters have to be to vote in favor their rights while Biden is helping murder and violating human rights of brown people around the world?

Campaigning on women's rights while denying women's rights to life around the world.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I'm sure Trump will be your man and the defender of the rights of brown people and women...lol

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.cafe -1 points 1 year ago

The difference is republicans dont pretend to care.

[–] Squirrelanna@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Because I would like to still be alive and not a second class citizen so that I can do what I can to advocate for those who still need that recognition and aid rather than backslide and have everything be universally worse. Can't rightly do that when I'm getting sent to the fucking camps too.

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.cafe -1 points 1 year ago

You are already a second class citizen to the US government. In this country you either have money or you dont. Anyone without it is treated as a second class citizen, and has no representation in government.

[–] BReel@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't like it, but in reality I have 2 choices.

  1. Someone who is supporting awful things around the world, but will (at least temporarily) protect myself and my community. or
  2. Someone who will continue supporting awful things around the world, and will without a doubt persecute and hunt me and my community.

It's a shit choice. But its an easy choice. One candidate is a very real threat to not just myself, but my friends, family, and community. The other is not.

I'd love our magic 3rd option to show up and be viable, but they won't. We all know this.

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.cafe -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Democrats havent done a damn thing to protect our community, endless lip service about rights and protections while doing nothing causes more harm

[–] BReel@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So the people doing nothing are causing more harm than the people actively hunting and persecuting me?

I’d disagree. That’s like saying my neighbors who didn’t put out the fire in my house are just as bad as my other neighbor who started the fire in the first place.

We have two choices.

Democrats haven’t done a damn thing…

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.cafe -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except in your bad up scenario, neighbor 1 provided the matches to neighbor 2.

YOU have 2 choices, neither of them is on list list. Theres a larger chance of you voting republican than me voting for either

[–] BReel@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dems did not supply the matches lol. Republicans showed up with a flame thrower.

But whatever. There will be no winning you over, even with facts provided. Later boo

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.cafe -1 points 1 year ago

There has been no facts, only conjecture