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[–] Fox@pawb.social 60 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] Jesus@lemm.ee 52 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Lots of suspicious comments in this thread. Seems like political astro-turfing has already arrived on Lemmy

[–] wesley@yall.theatl.social 21 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Unfortunately they're probably real people. Most of Lemmy was full of tankies before the reddit migration so any post involving China or Russia brings them out in force.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 years ago

It's like porn to them

[–] Dubious_Fart@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

lemmygrads leaking, i guess

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[–] saltedFish@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You mean the ones from hexbear aka lemmygrad-lite?

[–] Jesus@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Possibly, I didn't look where they're all from, nor do I know what hexbear is or why it's significant. Sounds like some kind of intra-Lemmy drama which I'm not too interested in. Just noticed a fair amount, lets say........not totally organic, seemingly agenda pushing comments.

Edit: Forget my previous comment. I now see the problem with Hexbear.

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[–] randint@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I know right! How come there are so, so many people defending China here? I thought they were the minority. Ugh. When I was back on Reddit comments like those would always be downvoted to hell.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The issue is there are a much higher percentage here because brigading wasn't allowed on reddit so they'd be banned for this type of activity. They come here and can do what they want, which is fine as long as it doesn't hurt other people doing what they want, which in this case is arguably happening because it clutters the comments with the same thing repeated over and over, and they are organized so it's all up voted. This doesn't make them the majority opinion though. It makes them the organized opinion. They are not the majority by any means, but they will make sure to come to China's defence whenever it's mentioned, where others won't bother.

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[–] lukini@beehaw.org 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I was curious what you were talking about as there are only 10 comments through Beehaw so I checked out the original. It's overwhelmingly coming from hexbear.net which we've defederated from.

[–] EremesZorn@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago

Got into an argument last week with somebody from Hexbear. Good to see the tankie trash being taken out.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's a good number coming from Lemmygrad as well.

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago

…which we are also defederated from.

So glad I chose this instance.

[–] Gsus4@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yea, it feels like 4chan suddenly saw the light and then turned far-left all at once. They act like what the far right imagines the left to be like, but just looks like really bad anti-leftist propaganda, or they're just tankies :/ some hexbears are ok, though, but most here are just discrediting themselves by throwing the propaganda handbook at the passersby.

[–] Jesus@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

Yea, it feels like 4chan suddenly saw the light and then turned far-left all at once

Exactly this. They're running around spewing barely-sensical insults acting like they're dunking on people, but all their really doing is turning off anyone who was ever possibly sympathetic to their cause. And are completely un-informed on top of that

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[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Taiwan, which China claims as its territory, has repeatedly complained of Chinese military activity near it over the past three years, as Beijing steps up pressure to try to force the island to accept its sovereignty.

Taiwan's defence ministry said that starting at around 9 a.m. (0100 GMT), it detected a total of 25 Chinese aircraft engaging in operations out at sea, including J-10 and J-16 fighters, as well as H-6 bombers.

The ADIZ is a broad area Taiwan monitors and patrols to give its forces more time to respond to threats, and Chinese aircraft have not entered territorial Taiwanese air space.

China staged war games around Taiwan in April after President Tsai Ing-wen returned home from a visit to the United States where she met U.S. House Speaker Kevin McCarthy.

Taiwan Vice President William Lai leaves for the United States this week on his way to Paraguay on what is officially only a transit but which has angered China.

Taiwan's democratically elected government rejects China's sovereignty claim and says only the island's people can decide their future.


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[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Surprise surprise, Hexbear users came to brigade other instances exactly the way they said they would. Bad actors through and through.

[–] Gsus4@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago

I thought they weren't even federated with anybody...at least I can't see their communities in the list.

[–] Schnatter@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

lmao hexbear incels trying hard here

[–] Fox@pawb.social 10 points 2 years ago

They say they're not getting paid, and with arguments like theirs I actually believe them

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[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Goddammit, I do NOT want us to be propping up a war in Ukraine and fighting an actual war with China.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wonder if we'd drop Ukraine if WWIII was starting. On the one hand, it's WWIII, on the other hand maybe Russia is still a likely enemy?

[–] Benghandhi@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I assume NATO would officially swoop in and bomb the everliving fuck out of Russia's fleet and fortified positions before diverting their attention elsewhere. Basically giving Ukraine a much easier path forward.

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[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

They are just showing us what non-imperialism looks like

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