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Too many users abused unlimited Dropbox plans, so they’re getting limits::Some people have taken "as much space as you need" too literally.

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[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 241 points 2 years ago (65 children)

You can’t abuse something that has no limit. Stop calling things unlimited and then blaming users when they are not.

[–] poke@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I read somewhere about someone who took a zip file, copied it and zipped it with the copy over and over again until the file size ballooned to petabytes. I would consider that sort of pointless use of storage to be abuse.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago

Then put an * and say that there are a couple well documented exceptions, like zip bombing or don’t call it unlimited and call it up to 100TB for x dollars.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 144 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

How the fuck do you abuse unlimited access? This is just a company blaming an idea that was always going to be unsustainable on their customers and not their own damn lack of forethought.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It was a business plan and they found hardly any of the plan subscribers were actually businesses, and I'm guessing reselling your unlimited data was against the ToS.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

It was a business plan and they found hardly any of the plan subscribers were actually businesses

And why the fuck would that matter? If they can't handle some random's porn and piracy collection, how the fuck would they handle a legit business? lol

Reselling an account would hurt their bottom line, but still have no effect on providing the storage. Imposing a limit doesn't stop that though, other than perhaps by making the product worthless and therefore unworthy of reselling.

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[–] alienanimals@lemmy.world 107 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Corporate bootlickers: OMG they're actually using our unlimited service as if they were unlimited. THIS IS ABUSE!1!

[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Isn't there a special term in court for entering a contract that you have no intention of fulfilling as you promised in the first place?

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago
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[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 90 points 2 years ago (6 children)

You can’t abuse unlimited. That’s why it’s called “UNlimited.” I hate this two faced, corporate back sludge that always, and I mean always, puts it on the consumer as if they did something wrong. When in reality, it’s the company that is redlining or needs to boost those unsustainable goal of doubling revenue every quarter, ad infinitum.

The real narrative is Dropbox needs money so they are scrambling to cut every expense. No matter what spin they put on it.

[–] Mane25@feddit.uk 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If they were just honest about it and say "this is expensive so we need to put the prices up", I would have a lot more respect for that.

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[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 63 points 2 years ago

Then it was never unlimited to begin with, wtf?

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 62 points 2 years ago

everything here is wrong, and blaming the users is wrong. Please try to read past the PR speak. and shame on ars for not doing that.

the unlimited plan is going away to force companies that were using it, to switch to their new unlimited plan which is now called Enterprise and will generate a lot more money for them. The plan still exists, they've changed the requirements so you can only get it if you spend a lot of money.

[–] Mane25@feddit.uk 61 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I remember in the 90s, my dial-up provider started offering an "unmetered" plan with no per minute charge (for younger people, believe it or not we were once charged by the minute for connecting to the internet). After a short while we were inundated with emails from the ISP complaining that people were "abusing the service" by going on the internet for "hours at a time". Just reminded me of this and how it's an old excuse.

No, you can't "abuse" an unlimited service by using too much, it's unlimited.

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[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 61 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Users: Use the product as it was designed and advertised.

Corporations:

[–] jetsetdorito@lemm.ee 57 points 2 years ago

Like when Microsoft took away unlimited OneDrive and wrote a passive aggressive blog post about how some dude used it to store like 75TB of movies

[–] silvercove@lemdro.id 48 points 2 years ago

Don't offer unlimited if you can't deliver unlimited. FFS

[–] kefka@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago

Don't use the fucking word unlimited if it has limits? Something that has a limit, no matter how high, is not unlimited.

[–] jwagner7813@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago

What they meant to say was "We didn't have the foresight to monetize these heavy users, so we will be doing that now. But first we'll create the problem..."

Eh... If you offer unlimited you have to live with unlimited.

Fuck these people but thats also on Dropbox.

[–] Abnorc@lemm.ee 26 points 2 years ago

Calling it “abuse” is a weird PR move. If your service is good enough, this is bound to happen with an unlimited storage plan. This is basically a win on their part since they got people to sign up for their service. Why shame your user base?

"Abused"? Is it unlimited or not? I don't see how as much as you need can be taken too literally. It's either true or it isn't.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

"Abused" service they were advertised. Now it is misadvertisement.

[–] raptir@lemdro.id 12 points 2 years ago

This reminds me of how Skype always had limits in the fine print of its unlimited calling plan back in the day when we paid for minutes on cellphones.

Or, y'know, how current cellphone data plans are only unlimited up until the point where you've used enough and then become "deprioritized."

Or how backblaze offers unlimited plans on Windows and Mac but not on Linux because Linux users tend to actually know how much storage they're using.

Companies have a number that is the profitable point for whatever unlimited plan they're offering. They just want to be able to advertise "unlimited" since that's what customers want and they hope people don't go over their "profitable usage" metric.

[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My only concern about throttling it as 5TB for small organizations is that I could see that being a problem for freelance video editors. 8K video can take up a lot of space.

[–] kill_dash_nine@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

At some point though I feel like if someone would be using Dropbox for 8k videos, they should be wondering if they are using the right solution for their needs. I would say ~absolutely~ (edit: maybe) not.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Temporary storage of, say, a documentary with hundreds of hours of video so it can be transferred from the cameras to the editor who is working remotely seems like exactly the sort of thing Dropbox is for.

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[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

~~I always hated the term unlimited when it's not really unlimited. Is it really abuse if you're using it as intended?~~

Edit: I eat my words. People are assholes. I thought this was referring to providers of unlimited storage or bandwidth, only to say "oh, you've using it too much, so we're going to throttle you."

[–] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I think you are right the first time.

“Unlimited “ only ever an advertising term, to garner attention. No one ever intends to deliver on it .

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