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[–] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 80 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In order to create a "viable" search engine business, Apple would be required to "sell targeted advertising," which is "not a core business" for the company and would go against its "longstanding privacy commitments."

Not a CORE business. Hmmmmm.

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Well, yeah, they hand over everything to Google when using their search engine by default. It's definitely a business for Apple.

They keep their image as privacy friendly, while taking cool cash to let others harvest the data. Stonks.

[–] gianni@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you have an example of this?

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yes. Apple is defaulting Google in their browsers and search in general. Google is paying Apple. Google is using the data they get when people search on Apple products.

[–] gianni@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

And how does making a google search constitute “handing over everything to Google”?

Especially in your example of the default context when a user is using Safari, which has tracking protection enabled. And possibly using iCloud Relay to anonymize browsing.

[–] AlphaAutist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

By that logic FireFox and pretty much every company is in the same boat

[–] foxitixation@lemmy.zip 44 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They just want the money from Google.

[–] Grunt4019@lemm.ee 40 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Aka Google is paying them enough to make it NOT worth it to build a competitor.

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

Can you imagine the rich kid in a class paying the smartass from doing to well in the exams so as to not bring the class average higher?

[–] headset@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So what? Nobody asked for an explanation

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Not sure anyone asked for their search engine either. Must be slow times for journalism

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What I would actually like to know is why Apple don't make a smart speaker. It's honestly a product I would have thought they would have actually made. It could be made of metal and cost $12,000, it's right up there alley.

I don't think anyone has ever assumed they would make a search engine they don't really have much pedigree in that area.

[–] spookedintownsville@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

Surprisingly cheaper than I thought and also with less metal than I expected

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Is a distributed search engine possible?

There are multiple things here - scraped data (reduced to plain text, which what we search, and maybe images, I dunno) caches, aggregation (at least word frequency per object) caches, index (word to aggregation caches?) caches, and the thing that takes a request, retrieves index caches, finds objects, and retrieves them. Things in that tree may be, ahem, again, cached.

So - everything called "cache" here can be put onto something like NOSTR relays or Usenet servers, and given credibility by trusted entity signing it, some kind of web of trust may work, or maybe inherited scores, and what not. What is called "thing" may be local, but its local caches might be exchanged with new peers.

OK, I lack the mathematical apparatus. And I don't know how search engines work.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I really wish companies didn't have a voice...so sick of hearing anything from all these criminals

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

This. And the response to the "why?" for these fucks is always "money", no matter how many word they use in their explanation.