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[–] 211@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I don’t see how the countries that haven’t gotten into NATO are relevant.

It is relevant to claims of NATOs "expansionist" nature. But we can drop that topic.

“unprovoked” invasion.

I'd just like to point out that the "Russia was provoked" arguments are based on the realism school of foreign affairs, which boils down to "might makes right". Seeing fellow lefties more radical than me espouse it with such glee is always such a sad thing.

Czechia, Hungary, Poland, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Albania, Croatia, Montenegro, and North Macedonia.

Now I don't quite know what you want me to do with that list. Yes, they were (probably, haven't checked but will take you at your word) members of NATO at the time. Do you want me to find sources for them aspiring to become members of NATO well before the invite? But that would be going back to the "NATOs expansionist nature" debate. Do you want to discuss the relevance of the "not one inch eastward" comments? But there are plenty of sources articulating that better than we could.

[–] 211@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Those countries, in practice, applied to join, and many are still stuck in the application process. Just because it's called an "invitation" doesn't make it so.

Don't think I can make it any more concise than that.

[–] 211@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Err, as a Finn, we didn't want to join for decades and neither did Sweden, and neither of us received any invites. When we did want to join, invitation was part of the process, probably the last step but I really don't remember. Several other countries wanting to join, some for a long time, have not been invited. How is it a bullshit argument?

[–] 211@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago (7 children)

You do realise it's an invitation in name only, not extended unless the aspirant country wants it?

True, refusing to accept is always possible. But NATO is not pushing itself, countries want to or don't want to join of their own agenda. Which doesn't really make it "expansionist", just "accepting".

[–] 211@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

Yes, this massive Nato expansion, almost as bad as the EU expansion, forcing one country after another to join then.

Also the verbal agreement to not situate military stuff in former DDR, in a time when the Soviet Union was alive and the situation was "slightly" different, clearly applies today. Do you want to bring the Warsaw pact back too, I'm sure there are agreements somewhere?

[–] 211@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 week ago (11 children)

So, Russia gains all their prime objectives through offensive warfare, and Ukraine is forced to keep kowtowing to Russia in some semblance of neutrality (finlandization was not fun, you know).

Tell me again how this is a compromise. Also how this is not a full return to "might makes right", the final nail in the coffin of the fragile East-European stability agreed to in the Helsinki accords.

[–] 211@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not American, but definitely would. I'd get it a new fun/tacky paintjob for shits and giggles, maybe a realistic/stylized total rust bucket look, or grandma's crocheted lace. Or, if possible, just black and enhance any scratches with fineline gold paint, overscratch swastikas and replace them with flowers, etc.

[–] 211@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 week ago

Pretty sure the term solified itself after the 1968 Prague spring, when most communists condemned or remained silent and ashamed of the Soviet/Warsaw pact invasion of Czechoslovakia, and the ones supporting the violence became the Stalinist minority? At least that's when our major communist split happened afaik.

[–] 211@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 weeks ago

If you ignore it for long enough, you can replace burn out with depression.

[–] 211@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 weeks ago

allows you the luxury of studying to increase the value of your work output

I've always wanted more value from my work output! Or contentment and self-actualization, it was one or the other.

luxury of ennui that gives you philosophical dread on your idle hours

I'm assuming you mean that those idle hours are the luxury? Because I'm pretty sure tedium and boredom existed in the fields and cobalt mines long before it got a fancy French name.

others would kill to be on your not-working-in-cobalt-mines shoes while being fed and safe

Relative privation?

Also, is eating ramen being fed? Is it safety if you're one illness and insurance fuckup, or a job loss and six(?) months, away from homelessness?

this while having thrived up to an age that for most of human history has basically senility

Extreme infant and childhood mortality explains most of the short historical lifespans. 30 was never senility.

The same logistics and industrial development... is the one that gives you the climate change.

Every step of towards lessening greenhouse gases brings us closer to the fall of western civilization! Fly more, abolish public transportation, eat only beef, set your AC so low you have to wear a sweater!

[–] 211@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In your 40s your body begins to break down. Often your mind slows down too. And you'll have people relying on you, whether at work as a senior colleague, your children, your aging parents/other relatives, your friends whose bodies have begun to break down, or whatever responsibilities/opportunities you've taken in your various communities.

[–] 211@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

If only this progress had happened for happier, nobler reasons.

 

Also mistaken for fulgurite by the more naturalistically minded, apparently. Maybe most common in the Nordics, based on viking references?

Additional links:
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/100810-thor-thors-hammer-viking-graves-thunderstones-science
https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukonvaaja [Finnish]

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