AceTKen

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[–] AceTKen@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There's not really a way to "source" this until a scientist decides to create a longitudinal study on how people refer to themselves. I've never seen one, but maybe one exists. I think this one's going to have to pretty much remain a personal experience kind of thing for now!

[–] AceTKen@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I don't think our two statements are mutually exclusive. There's certainly a difference between education and being smart.

EDIT: if you disagree, what is someone smart before they get into school? Not smart? In countries where they don't have formal education systems, is nobody intelligent over there?

Is someone who went to school for 10 years automatically considered smart? That would mean that more school equals more smart. How about somebody who got held back and had to repeat a grade six times? Are they extra smart then? How about those that did so well in school that they skipped a grade? Are they not smart then?

Your logic doesn't hold up, random disagreeing people. There is absolutely a difference between education and being smart.

[–] AceTKen@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

"Street smart is what stupid people call themselves when they want to describe themselves as smart."

  • My Name Is Earl
[–] AceTKen@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I hope they change it, I've not really clicked with the real time FF games.

The best turn based combat system that I personally ever played has been the Mario RPG games because of the button prompt requirements for bonus damage. I haven't played CO yet though.

[–] AceTKen@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It happens towards the mods of a lot of communities. I've had it on my Community !actual_discussion@lemmy.ca and we're just about discussing random topics. I know my buddy that mods a Vegan Community gets it constantly, as well as the one person in this thread that mods a Carnivore diet Community. It's pretty tragic that people can''t handle opposing opinions.

I think the activist nature of Lemmy is kind of a self-destructive spiral and people need to learn how to live with each other again. But I guess that's the issue with modern social media as a whole... Nobody has any idea how to convince anyone else, only to yell at them louder.

[–] AceTKen@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

No, this is some other user who was in here earlier by another name spouting the same stuff and posting pictures of dog wangs.

This isn't really my style. I tend to prefer info seeking and conversational English over animal dicks and blind fury.

[–] AceTKen@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Don't know who the hell you are, but you certainly aren't me.

Judging by the deleted posts that you also made under this and another username, somebody has a massive and quite unhinged hatred for a specific mod.

[–] AceTKen@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Mods or Admin can. I can't.

[–] AceTKen@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Actually, I've been unbanned from 10 of those subs due to this post because it was found to be an unjust ban. Also, are you able to point at the part where I stated I was anti-image generation, or are you just being standard-issue internet hostile?

[–] AceTKen@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was subscribed to one of the communities that I was banned from and was in there pretty regularly.

If I'm unbanned or not, that is ultimately up to the mods. I'm not really stumping for it one way or the other.

My main purpose here would be essentially to say that these kinds (multi-community, permanent, and over very light and expected interactions from normal people) of bans are not justified and perhaps mods should rethink the process and not assume the worst of everyone.

[–] AceTKen@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

Oh, I'm aware, but they weren't as exposed as they are since 19.10 made them easily visible to Mods. It was MUCH harder to get downvote totals prior.

[–] AceTKen@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Non-biased explanation: in the initial image, you can see two "ban waves."

The 10 bans three months ago stem from a single downvote in one Community.

The other bans from two months ago are from four downvotes over a 10 month timeframe in one Community.

I have also stated in this thread that I don't have issues with AI-gen images, but there are shoddy ones and well-done ones.

EDIT: Added the info to the initial post along with some more explanation now that we've uncovered it. Should hopefully save me from having to go over it constantly.

 

Was recently banned from a whole bunch of DB0 communities for, as best as I can gather, downvoting once when I viewed by All (potentially accidentally while scrolling).

Important notes:

  1. I don't use scripts.
  2. I don't mass-downvote Communities. If I see a post I generally don't like when browsing All, I may downvote one post, block the Community and move on.
  3. Some of the communities I was banned from don't have any posts in them so I wouldn't have been able to downvote anything.
  4. Of all of these Communities, in my history I downvoted one post in one of them. Voting in this manner is not vote manipulation. It's quite literally a feature of the platform and as a mod of another Community, I would consider it pretty good etiquette.
  5. One of my bans reads "Appeal Granted, not a brigading member" but I'm still banned.
  6. I don't troll.

WTF is going on here?

EDIT - Updated Info from the conversation below: In the initial image, you can see two "ban waves."

The 10 bans three months ago stem from a single downvote in one Community. It was @Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com See here: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/34853477

I was called out by name for a single downvote and culled from a score of Communities I did not participate in by them.

The other bans from two months ago are from four total downvotes over a 10-month timeframe in one Community.

I have also stated in this thread that I don't have issues with AI-gen images, but there are shoddy ones and well-done ones.

EDIT 2: Now unbanned from the ten Communities listed as "3 months ago" in my initial image, but have been banned from three more because of this thread with the reason given being "self-proclaimed anti-AI brigader" which are two things I didn't claim to be. God dammit Lemmy...

 

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We're testing the waters with the new influx of people to see if this is valuable or not. We are also actively seeking moderators and people who enjoy discussion (and understand that being wrong is an important part of being a better person)! Send me a message if you'd like to help out.

This weekly thread will focus on games (board or video) that are fantastic, but have one extremely annoying aspect that doesn't fit, doesn't make sense, or makes the game worse.

No starters this time as there's tons of examples. Let me know yours and maybe what you did as a workaround or house rule (if applicable)!

 

I tend to browse /All and by New on Lemmy. I went to respond on a thread on !vegan@lemmy.world to thank someone for a recipe that looked good, and found out I had been banned.

Odd, considering I hadn't posted to that sub at any point in the past. I checked the modlog to find that "Mod" had banned a bunch of people citing "Rule 5."

Their Rule 5 states: Bad-faith carnist rhetoric & anti-veganism are not allowed, as this is not a space to debate the merits of veganism. Anyone is welcome here, however, and so good-faith efforts to ask questions about veganism may be given their own weekly stickied post in the future (see current stickied discussion).

I (and hundreds of others) seemingly broke rule 5 of this community without ever posting there. What is going on?

And my apologies if this isn't the place for this, but I had no idea where else to post the question.

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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by AceTKen@lemmy.ca to c/actual_discussion@lemmy.ca
 

First and foremost, let me say that I appreciate you actually engaging in a real discussion on Lemmy!

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It is important to maintain solid reasoning and conclusions, not just one or the other.

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And finally, none of these are so set in stone that we can't change them. If you want to see adjustments or changes, let us know here or in Private Message!

 

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