August27th

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[–] August27th@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Please don't take the following as me being a dick, I am just genuinely curious. Your response is unique and interesting to me.

I have no idea what you are asking

Then why did you feel compelled to respond?

The rest of the thread is filled with people who know the topic and gave relevant responses very specific to OP's situation. Many hours before your response in fact. I'm a little perplexed.

Maybe custom built software

Any person (with enough budget) could get software built, but that's obvious to anyone, so it's kind of redundant to suggest, so why write it given the other responses? I am further perplexed.

Just install Gentoo. It will fix your problems.

I take this as humor. OP was looking for software to run on Linux, not a Linux distro. Was that the joke?

Anyway, I'm sorry if I have come across as critical or insulting. I really am just curious. If I have, and it's any consolation, if you care to genuinely answer my questions, I'll give you a short explanation of what OP was on about, if that is helpful to you. I think it was very kind of you to respond to OP, I think I'm just confused more than anything.

[–] August27th@lemmy.ca 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Ignition from Inductive Automation. Works great on Linux, used to run it in docker even. There are drivers for all kinds of PLCs. It's a dream to develop in, was my SCADA platform of choice (I've moved on from the industry). If you need to script anything, it is in Python, not some bullshit proprietary scripting language, nor VBA garbage. The client software is great, even runs nice on PC-based HMI touch panels, which you could install Linux on if you want. The call-out alarming actually works (FUCK WIN911).

The software is free to try and download. You can develop in it for free, unlike the majority of competitors. Go ahead and try all of it out right now if you want. The training courses on using their software are free, nice handy videos, so you can start learning how to build everything like right now.

The "catch" is it costs money to run all of the SCADA critical components for more than an hour at a time (to prevent you from just using it to run your whole plant for free). But you can build your whole SCADA app today with your PLC gear on hand, and only pay for it once you are ready to deploy to production.

Anyway, to me, it's hands-down the best SCADA platform, and it even runs on Linux. Disclaimer: some of this might be out of date, I've been gone about 4 years.

Edit: sorry, didn't see the "free" requirement. I would never run a critical plant without support, so I've not explored any fully open source options. If your plant is serving more than just your farm/homestead (in other words, is serving the general public) I strongly recommend a supported option for your client. If you get hit by a bus, and the plant is in trouble, they'll have a hard time finding someone to get them back online who knows your "weird" software.

That said, depending on your needs, Ignition can be cheap AF (comparatively) if your plant is small.

[–] August27th@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd count on Apple making the RCS bubbles green too, just to sow further confusion.

[–] August27th@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

It's on Apple TV. They work okay. It's family friendly without trying to be, so it's not grossly saccharine like regular family friendly tv, IMO.

[–] August27th@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like a lot of people don't know that alcohol is a carcinogen. Totally not worth it

[–] August27th@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

I guess now they are virtual assholes too.

[–] August27th@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you for that info, now that I know that, I'm gonna switch to web only.

[–] August27th@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I feel like in the future this is going to get more intense. They will have facial+ear+gait recognition combined with AI so they can detect and combine literally every instance of shoplifting, intentional or not (to say nothing of footage that only coincidentally has the appearance of shoplifting but they retain it as "proof" anyway), over decades of visits to any of their locations, and once you've accumulated over $1000 combined in unpaid merchandise, hit you with a felony charge.

Or they just ban you after the first incident straight up, and electronically recognize you and kick you out for the rest of your life afterward.

And you would have no affordable recourse because they have all the footage and lawyer money to oppose fighting it.

[–] August27th@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

No prob! I was curious how far I could get with a low-effort decoupling from Meta, and I'm sad it turns out that that's not very far.

I updated my post a little with some more thoughts about the situation.

I think it would be cool to root it, but the hassle then to update it would be too much for me at least. And you would want the updates too because they are still adding improvements to things like controller motion tracking and whatnot.

I'm excited for what this quest version of Steam link can do for getting more VR content on Linux. Without the need for Linux drivers for the headset, it can just be streamed and the hardware work is done. Valve is clearly talented enough to get the software side working. It would be cool as hell to have a mode that turns the Steam Deck into a WAP (easy on Linux as you undoubtedly know) and you just connect your headset and start VR gaming from it.

Thank you for the discussion by the way. You've inspired me to drop my unit into its own SSID now, and log what it's doing to keep an eye on it.

[–] August27th@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Okay, so I factory reset the thing, and to use the headset at all, the setup requires that you have to log in with at least a Meta account (only an email address needed, no Facebook), and you have to pair it with an app on your phone that controls things like developer mode. There's no way around it, the first thing you are greeted with in the headset is a pairing code for the app, and you need the app to make the headset work afaict. I didn't investigate if there's a desktop app or web app.

Side note, apparently developer mode now requires a phone number or credit card attached to the account. Maybe a vanilla visa could work, not sure. I've already bought stuff through the quest store, so enabling developer mode was just a click for me. I used developer mode to install sidequest just now to see what it's about, but neither it nor developer mode are needed for Steam link.

Mayyybe you could make a Meta account with an email address made just for the headset, maybe run the Android app in an emulator, but that would be a bit of a hassle imo. I suppose you could isolate the headset into a subnet, or it's own SSID if you've got the gear for that, and keep it quarantined most of the time and just let it reach out here and there for updates, but who knows if it blurts out any collected telemetry while it gets the update. You may not have to let it out for updates at all however; when I booted into factory reset there was a "sideload updates" option, so maybe you could update it manually offline.

Honestly, as good as this headset is for the price, if I were concerned with absolute privacy, I would just cough up the dough for a competitors OLED unit. I could spend all of the hours I was frigging around with the headset doing OT at work instead, and just use that money to get something better without the pain and hassle. I get that's not an option for everyone though.

Perhaps as an affordable compromise, if you don't mind temporarily leaking a little data to Meta one time, you could do the normal setup but with an email just for the unit, install the app for 5 minutes on an old phone or tablet without a SIM for the setup, get Steam link on the headset, uninstall the app on the phone, and drop the headset into whatever Wi-Fi isolation you can conjure up. Maybe an isolated SSID or even easier, an affordable 5g router dedicated just to VR.

I don't trust Meta either, but I gotta admit, it actually feels kinda neat to experience their $30 billion dollar metaverse disaster first hand while it's still around to look at. For the record, the only protection I did was make a Meta account. I don't use Facebook.

[–] August27th@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

I'll try it out tonight for you. I'll see if I can sign out and go from there.

There is some kind of side loading store called sidequest that I've been meaning to try. Maybe I can use that somehow.

I will also try to load it on with ADB maybe.

[–] August27th@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I have a Quest 3 and tried the Steam link app out last night. It works excellently. It is amazing to not have to run Meta's horrible and janky desktop app that uses up 2gb of video RAM just at idle.

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