Buelldozer

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[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 67 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Whelp, he's toast. The last Prez to threaten that got domed while visiting Texas.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“Outlawry” was applied to people who refused to submit to the legal process in the US.

The concept of an "outlaw" goes at least as far back as ancient Rome and was used in England until something like 1869. It held on in Scotland as part of Civil Law until somewhere in the 1940s. It was also present in France, Germany, and several Nordic countries.

This isn't just a US thing.

there is no legal process to submit to because they aren’t subject to US law to begin with.

Yes...because they are "Outside the Law". An Outlaw is neither subject to nor protected by the law.

It's that last part that so many people in here are missing. If the Elongated Muskrat were declared an "outlaw" you could kick in his front door, drag him out of bed, load him onto a catapult and fire him into the sun and the legal apparatus would not, nay could not, do anything about it.

People need to understand how deeply that "no legal process to submit to" goes. The "outlaw" isn't subject to the law but neither is anyone else as it relates to them.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

My understanding is that outlaws were still subject to the law in the UK ...

English Common Law had the "writ of outlawry" and the subject was deprived of all legal rights, being outside the "law", but others could kill him on sight as if he were a wolf or other wild animal.

There's a pretty good Wikipedia Article for this.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago

If so, any white supremacist or government agency could commit any atrocity and not get convicted, because the victim wasn’t protected by any laws.

Ding ding ding! You got it!

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

Sure, and also no one to protect them if / when they're caught.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If these people are not under the jurisdiction of the US then we have no legal right to deport them as they aren’t subject to our laws.

No.

Outlaws, people literally outside the law, have no legal protections at all. Taken to its limit this means that deportation is not necessary as they could simply be executed where they are found.

This is why being declared an outlaw was such a big fucking deal back when that word wasn't just a synonym for "criminal". You could be executed in broad daylight by the first person that found you and there would be no repercussions.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 15 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Well then by that logic all illegal immigrants arent under any US jurisdiction.

Honestly that is the original meaning of the word "outlaw"; iIt literally meant someone who was outside the law. Today we most use it as a synonym for "criminal" or "law breaker" but at the time the Constitution was written or at the time the 14th Amendment was ratified most people would have understood it with its original meaning.

"Outlaws" were neither subject to nor protected by the law. They had no legal status nor standing in the law.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

will straight up admit I didn’t understand a fuckin word Lamar said on stage

Closed Captions are your friend. KL writes excellent lyrics that are relevant to who he is and where he comes from.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It denotes me as an admin. I wish it wouldn't.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I've been enjoying Jeff Geerling's ongoing experiments with his 10" Raspberry Pi mini rack.

It doesn't work for me since all of my network equipment is 19" and there's no point in having two racks but having a 10" standard is still a great idea!

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I have Z-Wave switches but being able to make a voice command like "Nabu, setup to watch TV in the living room." is faster and easier than pulling out my phone, unlocking it, opening the HA app, and then triggering the "Watch TV in the Living Room" automation and that's assuming my phone is actually with me. I often roam the house without my phone, relying on my Smart Watch to alert me to text messages and phone calls.

Here's another one. I'm taking laundry downstairs but the stairs lights are off and so are the basement lights. My hands are full carrying a basket of laundry so flipping the switches or using my phone to do it means that I have to set the basket down. Instead I say "Nabu, turn on the stairs and basement lights." and the lights turn on for me. When I'm done and back upstairs I can either wait for the motion timer to turn them off or simply say "Nabu, turn off of the stairs and basement lights." EZ-PZ and so convenient.

Different strokes for different folks and all that, I'm not judging how other people live, but I really don't understand why people choose to do without voice control when they have an HA setup and the ability to run it all local.

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