ClutchCargo

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[–] ClutchCargo@sh.itjust.works 105 points 1 year ago (13 children)

But boy, oh boy. Say this to a believer and get ready to loose an afternoon.

[–] ClutchCargo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’d probably pay $15 alone for that. Looks like a lot of (frustrating) fun

[–] ClutchCargo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Presenting his floofness, Basel. Pictured with his two favorite things, snow and sticks.

[–] ClutchCargo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Multiple plaintiffs in a single case, similar to a class action. I think OPs point still stands.

[–] ClutchCargo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, sometimes. I live in a country with strict gun laws though, so I’m less concerned about getting shot than I am about getting hit by lightening.

[–] ClutchCargo@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Do you routinely walk into open expanses during electrical storms?

[–] ClutchCargo@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

yes, had they followed the tcas, the accident might have been avoided.

There it is. I’m glad we could finally come to an agreement. Thanks for the entertainment.

[–] ClutchCargo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Is that some kind of a faux pas? I don’t know who mentor pilot is

[–] ClutchCargo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Yours wasn’t a question, it was a statement, and a wrong one. TCAS adherence wasn’t fundamentally changed after the accident in question, but it brought to light it’s importance.

So let’s come back to the original argument: following the erroneous instructions of atc over the TCAS resulted in the accident - if they had followed TCAS, like the DHL crew, they’d be alive.

Edit: posted two answers by accident. Deleted one

[–] ClutchCargo@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (7 children)

According to the wiki..

TCAS was a relatively new technology at the time of the accident, having been mandatory[Note 2] in Europe since 2000.

Two years prior to the accident, in Europe, where the accident happened.

[–] ClutchCargo@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (9 children)

them obeying the atc command was reasonable and expected course of action.

That’s incorrect, and is exactly why we train to ignore ATC commands and follow TCAS advisories. We don’t even tell ATC if we’re climbing or descending, simply “Aircraft XYZ, TCAS RA”

 
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