Recently, I've realized that there is a decent explanation for why so many people believe that - if we model them as operating under a strict zero-sum game model of the world… ‘everyone loses’ is basically an incoherent statement - as a best approximation it would either denote no change and therefore be morally neutral, or an equal outcome, and would therefore be preferable to some.
Yes, this is why people think that. This is a normal thought to think others have.
Somebody found a relevant reddit post:
Dr. Casey Fiesler @cfiesler.bsky.social (who has clippy earrings in a video!) writes: " This is fascinating: reddit link
Someone “worked on a book with ChatGPT” for weeks and then sought help on Reddit when they couldn’t download the file. Redditors helped them realized ChatGPT had just been roleplaying/lying and there was no file/book…"
Yeah but those resource-intensive problems can be fitted into specific classes of problems (P, NP, PSPACE etc), which is what I was talking about, so we are talking about the same thing.
So under my imagined theory you can classify people as 'can solve: [ P, NP, PSPACE, ... ]'. Wonder what they will do with the P class. (Wait, what did Yarvin want to do with them again?)
It has but we dont have to make it worse, we can create a small village that resists. Like the one small village in Gaul that resisted the Roman occupation.
Only way I can make the link between complexity theory and laying off people is thinking about putting people in 'can solve up to this level of problem' style complexity classes (which regulars here should realize gets iffy fast). So hope he explained it more than that.
They are not even rolling the dice. The bot is just humoring them, it apparently just defaults to eventually going 'you are close to the edge of what is, known, well done keep going'.
Ah, im not the only one, yes very annoying. I wonder if there isn't also a setting they can ask the browsers about the users preferred language usage. Like how you can change languages on a windows install and some installers/etc follow that preferred language.
Good news for women, less risk of the pool needing to be drained because someone crapped in it again.
So random thought, you now how LW is worried about an seed AI going foom right, how it bootstraps itself into a new AI with better capabilities which bootstraps etc all the way till the singularity.
Why isn't it happening? Gpt-2 was released 2019, 3 2022, 4 2023, so where is 5 and 6? Where is our double event?
LW'er: "sorry can you excuse me for a moment? I'm having a bad day, somebody gave me a stack of papers with a paperclip in it"
(I do now worry if there are actual LWers who for real gave themselves ptsd like reactions from seeing paperclips. Like the woman who mistook 'free parking' for 'free palestine' a couple of years back).
Now im reminded of the guys I met at a student association party (for a student association which had an active boardgaming club) who didn't want to tell me about the boardgame they were developing because I needed to sign an NDA first, and they had no papers with them, and they wanted to see if they could patent the ideas. Such a weird moment to be introduced to people because they are actively trying to develop a board game, and I also liked board games for them to go 'its all a secret'. Can't recall if I laughed in their faces (as well, from what I heard from reading about board game development, NDAs like this were unheard of, same with patents, and nobody is going to steal your idea (and you will not make much money on it)). I didn't even get the genre. (And like I would steal their ideas, I have my own unfinished ideas thank you very much).
Thats fair, if you want to be generous, if you are not going to be Id say there are still conceptually large differences between the quote and "shit happens". But yes, you are right. If only they had listened to Scott when he said "talk less like robots"