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[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 19 points 4 hours ago (6 children)

Yeah, I had a friend who kept a tarantula. It was a dick.

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 3 points 1 day ago

Both of them absolutely were. That’s not what I’m arguing here.

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (14 children)

I didn’t just see one interview. It was dozens of interviews over the last 20 or so years. If it was just one piece, I would probably agree with you (as I have clearly stated multiple times). And I’m sure there are members of the IDF who are not there willingly and do not support its goals.

But I have a preponderance of evidence which supports my position.

My point is, again, that IDF soldiers are far more loyal, willing, and supportive of the socio/geopolitical goals of Zionist Israel than soldiers of the Wehrmacht were supportive of the Nazi Germany.

The identity politics of being a Zionist are far more… all-encompassing then were the identity politics of being a Nazi.

Stop defending Nazis just because you are extremely ignorant of historical facts and contemporaneous attitudes.

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 1 points 1 day ago

Yes, your explanation is more succinct. I was just trying to add a bit of historical context and comparative analysis.

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Probably. I’d like some further analysis on that, but I am definitely inclined to agree with you.

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Wrong. They were sworn to Germany, and nothing else.

The vast majority of them also joined so they didn’t starve to death. And in the second half of the war, it was forced conscription. They said what they had to say not to get shot in the head. While I don’t doubt that many, even most, were loyal to the Nazis, a lot of of them were not. a great many joined because they had no other choice.

It’s a historical detail that is worth mentioning

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

I don’t know if that’s really a counterpoint. The Nazis started as a terrorist organization.

And I’d argue that, based on available historical evidence, a lot of the Wehrmacht were fighting for Germany, not the Nazis (a subtle distinction, I know, but I think an important one in this context), whereas IDF soldiers, according to many interviews with them, are definitely fighting for both Israel and Zionism. I would argue that IDF soldiers are far more committed to their geo/sociopolitical cause than were the typical soldier in the Wehrmacht.

The IDF’s fascist zeal is more akin to that of the SS. Although, as an organization, the US Department of Immigration and Customs Enforcement is far more similar to the Nazi SS.

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