rogermccoy

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[–] rogermccoy@startrek.website 1 points 1 hour ago

I love Prodigy, but I've seen people struggle to get past the first episode. If someone's coming in reluctantly it's not where I'd start.

[–] rogermccoy@startrek.website 1 points 1 hour ago

I've shown this as a first episode (or at least first 2-3 episodes) and it hasn't been an issue. If you're sitting with them you can explain significant items, but generally they get enough without much help.

[–] rogermccoy@startrek.website 1 points 1 hour ago

Great episode, but I'd argue it doesn't really give a new viewer much of a feel of what Star Trek is. Probably works better when you have a few episodes of TNG already under your belt.

[–] rogermccoy@startrek.website 2 points 1 hour ago

Might be worth showing him the first episode of Lower Decks then. Or "Temporal Edict" is another strong early episode that's still fairly introductory and really gives a lot of the Star Trek vibes about being capable and ethical while still showing it as a fun time.

[–] rogermccoy@startrek.website 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They've retracted the comment.

"The premiere date for Star Trek: Strange New Worlds S3 was given to one of our members in error and is incorrect. Apologies for the inconvenience caused. We share your excitement and can't wait for the 3rd season of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds to premiere."

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN67nU54jJap8YLNTbSPBZg/community?lb=UgkxyY8OW7LJKPTqVl1gc46zFVOUZHBfFFZz

Though it could still be accurate and they're just doing damage control. Maybe we'll find out for First Contact Day?

[–] rogermccoy@startrek.website 1 points 6 months ago

To clarify, Melumad does the incidental music in Prodigy, but the theme is by Michael Giacchino. He also scored, among many other things, the three Kelvin Timeline films, so he probably brings that "cinematic" feel you're describing.

Melumad does occasionally integrate part of Giacchino's Kelvin Timeline themes. For example, I want to say it appears toward the beginning of Prodigy 1x11.

[–] rogermccoy@startrek.website 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Westlake is great, but so is Nami Melumad (who does the music for Strange New Worlds and Prodigy), so I'm absolutely not behind a call to have her fired, whether that call is meant to be tongue-in-cheek or not.

[–] rogermccoy@startrek.website 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I agree it's overused for the average episode of Trek, but if we accept that they're doing a Section 31 movie, what's the point of a low-stakes feature film (even a streaming film), especially one centered around Section 31?

Also worth noting that the article describes it as "Big stakes emotionally, big stakes for the characters in our story", so the "stakes" are referring at least in part to character stakes, not necessarily universe-ending stakes. (Though I admit in practice it will probably be both.)

[–] rogermccoy@startrek.website 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Great notes, as always.

In addition to the already-cited references, the Beagle could additionally be a sly reference to Archer's pal Porthos.

Interestingly, Jolene Blalock is credited simply as "Jolene". EDIT: Mike McMahan says this was at her request. https://bsky.app/profile/mikemcmahan.bsky.social/post/3ld3v4usznc2i

Our T'Pol also had some indirect experience with the concept of katra transference when Archer briefly carried Surak's katra.

[–] rogermccoy@startrek.website 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Nice notes, as usual.

V’Ger is the antagonist in TMP

Also it's in the Lower Decks opening credit sequence this year.

the Cambodian word for “toilet” is bangkon, which is pronounced similarly.

Interesting catch. That didn't occur to me, ហើយខ្ញុំចេះភាសារខ្មែរ។

Nurse Westlake is named after Chris Westlake

He's also appeared as far back as the series premiere, though he's rarely spoken until now, and I don't think he's ever said more than a couple of lines.

[–] rogermccoy@startrek.website 5 points 8 months ago

I guess I could add a similar note to this for every episode this year with a Stardate, but the launch date of the Protostar is Stardate 59749.1, placing this episode just under 100 days before that ship launches under Captain Chakotay.

The Star Trek: New Frontier novel series previously featured Mark McHenry, a Starfleet officer who was a descendant of Apollo and had powers as a result.

[–] rogermccoy@startrek.website 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Nice notes!

Since you went through the history of Cetacean Ops, it's worth remembering it was referenced more noticeably albeit less overtly in "The Perfect Mate" when La Forge says "Listen, have you had a chance to see the dolphins yet?"

This may just be a coincidence, but the room with the divided gravity reminded me of the "sweet spot" that Mayweather enjoyed, but since there's no point where the gravity seems to cut entirely, this may not be an intended allusion. Though they do mention having a problem with the gravity plating, which was mentioned in many episodes of ENT starting with "Unexpected". (Also a few times on Voyager.)

The tops of the kiosks in the shopping area are shaped like TNG-era comm badges.

"dress Sciences uniform from TNG"

Just to add to this, this is the uniform type primarily seen in seasons 1-2 with the extra line across the top.

"a Command top from DIS Season 2"

Nothing to add on this one; just wanted to say good catch noting the collar on that one! I had to look a few times before I realized which one you meant.

"a torn Monster Maroon from the movie era"

Also an excursion jacket from that era (on the left side).

The grav plate manual is on one of a set of cylindrical record tapes. I feel like these probably appeared in TOS at some point, though I'm not positive. In any case, they definitely exist in real life; cylindrical magnetic tapes were used for decades, and probably still are in some cases. https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/1980s-computer-tapes.html

A sign (about 17 minutes in) mentions "astro-medicine ward 4". A sign with the same text is visible outside of sickbay in TOS, as well as in early promotional photos of Paul Fix as Dr. Piper and Sally Kellerman as Dr. Elizabeth Dehner. You can also see a re-creation at the Star Trek Set Tour in Ticonderoga, NY.

https://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/photography/cast-photos/guest-stars/paulfix_drpiper02.jpg https://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/photography/cast-photos/guest-stars/kellerman_tospb.jpg

There's a sign that says "Trav..." and is cut off (also 17 minutes in). It's probably regarding "Travelers" or something and not an allusion to Travis Mayweather. Probably.

When Chad whips out the corn dogs at the end, the gesture and sound effect (snikt) resemble Wolverine from the X-Men expanding his claws.

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